TomBaker Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I am assisting someone with an installation. It's for a hotel room. They require 2 x short throw projectors and these need to fill 2 entire walls like in this picture but with the left hand wall also filled completely. They want to project several scenes/videos that are controlled by the user (probably 6-8 different scenes/videos) I.e 1 x sea (on a loop until it is changed/turned over by the user) 1 x sunset (on a loop until it is changed/turned over by the user) 1 x video of some birds (on a loop until it is changed/turned over by the user) and 1 x film (on a loop until it is changed/turned over by the user) Does anyone know the best way to do this? They don't want the image to be duplicated but would like a different thing to be projected through each projector but controlled via one single device/remote. It might be possible that they use just the one projector but they would like to explore both options. Would it be best to get a projector that has an SD CARD or hard-drive inside? or is a computer necessary? Also the architects are asking about speakers and whether these need to be hard-wired. Ideally they would like the room to be cable free but once everything is in it situ it would be very hard to change things. Ideally it would be great if the speakers could be wireless/bluetooth so that when a guest is staying the room they can connect a device to the speakers wirelessly - but as soon as the projector is used the speakers start playing the sound from the video. I imagine that this would mean a cable needs to be ran from the projectors to the speakers which is fine but can anyone specify if what I am asking is possible? Thanks so much for your expertise. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empyfree Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I would suggest a couple of brightsign Media players, then some form of interface. Maybe a custom iPad app or similar to allow selections? You’ll want something ultra reliable, it’s a big canvas to have an error message on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBaker Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 Thanks very much for your response. That's really useful. Do you have any suggestions for projectors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave m Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 projectors will make quite a noise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBaker Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 projectors will make quite a noise Even an ultra short throw quiet projector? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImagineerTom Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 This is going to be a lot more expensive and complicated than you think to create something that is as simple and dependable as it would need to be since it's got to function 24/7 for days at a time without failure & with the sort of standards and usability a hotel guest would expect. Custom interfaces and apps along with high end media servers and hardware is what you will need to be using for this to have any hope of surviving. You also need to look at the noise and light-spill of the projector too - in hotels people unplug the fridge because the fan is too noisy and hang their clothing over the indicator lights on TV's because they are a disturbance so a constantly wirring projector fan and constant light leak it produces will be a cause of complaints. Take a look at the "virtual balcony" on RCCL cruise ships; it's not dissimilar to what you're trying to achieve but they ended up commissioning a whole new type of screen, have to put it behind curtains and still get a dozen complaints per week about the disturbance it produces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBaker Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 Thanks Tom. Budget isn't an issue.. We have decided to just go with the one projector now. Like in the images above. The projector can be turned on and off whenever the guest wants. The guests will be staying in an art hotel, not a conventional hotel, all the rooms are themed and they can choose to stay in a room without a projector should they wish to do so. Can anyone recommend a decent quiet ultra short throw projector (that can project full wall) and speakers and a media server to go with them. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete McCrea Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 As ImagineerTom suggests it’s a bit more in-depth that just suggesting a projector and player. To make it work successfully will require knowledge of interfacing the kit together and to the other aspects of the building/room control. I’d really strongly suggest that you find an integrator that can work with you and help you fully define then specify the project. Otherwise there’s likely to be massive gaps that result in a failed project and broken client expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Fernand Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Your second image looks like it is being rear projected - are you planning the same?For a front projected image look at the Sony LSPX-W1S https://www.sony.com/electronics/projector/lspx-w1sJoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigclive Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Hello, is that room service? Yeah, we're trying to get to sleep but one of the walls is lit bright blue and says "no signal" in the middle. We've tried all the buttons and remote controls, but we can't turn it off. Could you send someone to do it please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Fernand Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 http://www.blue-room.org.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif it does have that written all over it. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBaker Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 Hello, is that room service? Yeah, we're trying to get to sleep but one of the walls is lit bright blue and says "no signal" in the middle. We've tried all the buttons and remote controls, but we can't turn it off. Could you send someone to do it please? As mentioned above.... if that were to happen it would be absolutely fine. It's an artist hotel - it isn't for paying guests, each room is different. Many of the rooms have projectors. Some of them have moving beds. It isn't a typical hotel. The projector doesn't have to be on all the time. I am just asking in theory what projector would be best for one full wall projection and could anyone recommend some speakers. It's fine if nobody has any ideas for a projector that is good for a full wall projection but if anyone can suggest one that would be wonderful. Thanks http://www.blue-room.org.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif it does have that written all over it. Joe Thanks for the response. http://www.blue-room.org.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 When you say “full wall projection “ it would be useful to define sizes of what a full wall is, and where you want to project from (ie throw distances) My full wall might be smaller than your full wall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBaker Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 When you say "full wall projection " it would be useful to define sizes of what a full wall is, and where you want to project from (ie throw distances) My full wall might be smaller than your full wall! The wall the videos will be projected on is 3m wide. The room is 5m so the throw distance can be up to 4.5m which is why I am assuming an ultra short throw would be better? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Possibly a terminology thing but ultra short throws usually mount on the wall above where they're projecting and project down on to the wall at a very steep angle (very popular in classrooms). If you want to fill the wall, that's not really the right approach as you'll need to be on the ceiling and projecting more horizontally than downwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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