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Fake money...and lots of it!


davekki

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Hi All,

 

Glad to have just found this place. Think it's going to come in very handy.... :mods:

 

Have googled myself to death looking for fake money - where to buy or how to make - and keep coming up empty. We are shooting a scene where a Las Vegas casino owner is murdered whilst counting his enormous riches, so we want lots of paper notes to scatter around. Does anyone have any tips for creating realistic looking money, or is it possible to buy?(self-made is preferred because we're zero-budget). Just printing out money doesn't have the right look. The paper is too....clean and bright and neat.

 

Any pointers appreciated. My first time as prop girl :huh:

 

Thanks in advance.

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Don't suppose you know anyone in America? My last trip to New York, having a wander around Greenwich/Little Italy and nearby areas, there were loads of souvenir /joke shops selling fake US dollars, really cheaply. At the time I thought "they'd be good for props" but didn't actually purchase any.....

Other than that it's a real note and a colour copier - or a black and white copier and lots of green "wash" paint!

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It is illegal to photocopy bank notes so DO NOT take it to a library where they have a coin operated colour photocopy machine that can not be seen from the desk, like the one in Crouch End London N8. Then place these on the top of piles of blank bits of paper and use real notes for the ones he is actualy counting.
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It is proberly a far out chance but the Us mint or Bank of England might be able to point you in the right direction.

 

NO! NO! NO!

 

What you are doing is technically illegal you don't want to tell these sort of people about it.

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This may be a stab in the dark, but I remember my school had these gigantic stamps each one with a different note upon it. Of course then the AU govt decided the old money was not good enough, and the new stuff would be impossible to make a stamp of, but I do not know british note designs, so your local primary school may have them. We used them in prep when learning how to count money.

 

Also - if you were to print money, use a rather thin paper - something between newsprint (48GSM IIRC) and 60GSM. Be sure that they cannot pass for forgeries.

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I heard, not sure where from, that it was normal practice to print the word "stage" or "fake" or some such in big letters across the note printed fairly faintly so it a shop you could see it but from a distance you couldn't.
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Had a similar problem and solved it by printing on to artists' tracing paper. This is (a) in handy A4 pads and (b) lightweight. A quick pass through a laser printer/copier, dunk in tea bags and general abuse and it looked great.
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It is proberly a far out chance but the Us mint or Bank of England might be able to point you in the right direction.

 

NO! NO! NO!

 

What you are doing is technically illegal you don't want to tell these sort of people about it.

Actually you can (apparently) get permission to do it, within certain criteria.

This Bank of England page provides full information and links to online and downloadable application forms.

However the size criteria may make you want to make toytown money the right size.

 

This link has similar (unofficial) information regarding the US regulations. I haven't found the equivalent info on the Federal Reserve site.

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I was involved in the Watermill Theatre's production of Mack and Mabel, which featured a vast quantity of dollar-tossing.

 

This required LOTS of dollar notes, and this was simply achieved using a modern dollar bill (try a bureau de change) scanned into a computer, copied and pasted so that there was a full page of them (think it was about 8 per page?).

 

This process was obviously applied to the front and the back of the note. We simply (but expensively) pressed print and selected 100 copies, and ensured noone else fancied using the printer for a while. The resulting wad was then fed back into the machine to print the backs. This was just normal office A4 paper.

 

Obviously there's a bit of trial and error involved to ensure that the front and back match up, but it meant that we were left with two JPEG or GIF files which could just be printed off whenever we needed more.

 

The notes were scattered about and danced on etc, so they aged quickly. Bear in mind that the audience are VERY close to the stage at the Watermill, and we had regular thefts. I once collared a couple of kids emerging from the auditorium with notes coming out their pockets. I wish I had let them try and spend it now, as it said 'Stage' fairly obviously but faintly on it, kinda like a watermark.

 

This was an expensive way of doing things, but it worked pretty well. There are some pictures on t'internet of David Soul (playing Mack) being showered with the notes, I couldn't find it, but it's out there.

 

Phil

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It is proberly a far out chance but the Us mint or Bank of England might be able to point you in the right direction.

 

NO! NO! NO!

 

What you are doing is technically illegal you don't want to tell these sort of people about it.

 

What you want - to film the counting of bank notes is perfectly legal. Ask your bank how much they would charge you to borrow that many real notes. Ask at the US embassy about the notes of the period of your shoot, and ask for their help. The Bank of England and the Royal Mint have schemes of approving stage fake money and will help to sattisfy your shoot within the terms of the law. for UK money. For US money I expect the US Embassy will have access to the US Central Bank people. I dont expect all the stage money in Hollywood is either real or illegal forgery.

With film technique can you not shoot the same notes several times. Have you found Kemps site KFTV.com they have LOTS of film things.

 

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the best way to age "money" is to put it in to a tumble dryer on a low setting for a few mins I had to do it for a show once

hope it helps :headsetsmiley:

I am led to believe that the way professional forgers age money is to put it in the washing machine with some casino chips.

Ofcourse you want to be sure your ink isn't water soluble before you try this :blink:

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