Image Projector

[the kid]

I am looking for possibly an elusive fixture. 

Needed 
Bright - think s4 575 / 750 -  enough to be seen in a normal lit room 

small - s4 junior size or smaller - I imagine in a super ideal world a mini s4 

image projector - here is the issue, ideally something like a pacific where we could print image and use in the gate OR something like a projector where we could upload some JPG/PNG and project. 

Inside and possibly outside use, but outside we could maybe solve with another solution. 

 

A few times now we have had clients looking for image projector but all of 0 info "I want a image on a wall". Projector is too big or too much, but now its 3 days before the gig and they are still trying to decide what to use and now they cant get the artwork so its too late for gobos. 

[gareth]

3 hours ago, the kid said:

a pacific

I think you answered your own question!

[the kid]

7 minutes ago, gareth said:

I think you answered your own question!

Yeh. kinda want something smaller.  

MY googlefu is kicking in now and I found this https://www.thomann.de/se/eurolite_led_ip_lp_7_logo_projector.htm  but I don't think its gonna be THAT bright. at only 60 quid maybe its worth the gamble  and also try the bigger brother 

[themadhippy]

Not sure what size hammer you need to get it to fit a s4 junior,but if a full fat s4 is acceptable  https://norcostco.com/rosco-image-pro/

[the kid]

5 hours ago, themadhippy said:

Not sure what size hammer you need to get it to fit a s4 junior,but if a full fat s4 is acceptable  https://norcostco.com/rosco-image-pro/

Not the maddest idea. I think that s4jr might even be too big.  

 

[sandall]

The 7W Thomann thing looks like it wouldn't do for anything bigger than a child's bedroom, unless the ambient lighting is very low, but if there's a bigger version?

The Rosco thing looks clever, even if it does look like it's made of plastic, but I can't work out how the light gets through (it appears to have DMX in & out, so maybe this is not the correct image?).

Edited October 26, 2023 by sandall

[DrV]

The Rosco device is just an electronic slide. You need to insert it into a conventional luminaire. See the pic on the stagegear site

Edit: I don't think it's even that - just seems to be a DMX controlled rotator

Edited October 26, 2023 by DrV

[J Pearce]

It’s also somewhat redundant in the age of led fixtures - it was designed to cool a laser printed acetate gobo enough for it to survive in the gate of a halogen lamped lantern.

A Lustr/Ovation/whatever else can take a laser printer acetate natively and give you colour mixing fun too. And you can award yourself some green points for saving a tiny bit of power by using lots of hard to maintain and hard to recycle materials.

(I said that last bit out loud again didn’t I?)

[ninjadingle]

If it's just an outline image you could use laser - software like Pangolin lets you upload custom images, expensive if you don't already have it though and eye safety has to be considerd.

[musht]

Griven make a couple of LED gobo projectors

 https://www.griven.com/en/products-filter/group,image_projectors

Used to make the 150w CDM Goboclip

Edited October 26, 2023 by musht

[sandall]

3 hours ago, DrV said:

 See the pic on the stagegear site

Ah, that makes sense

[the kid]

7 hours ago, sandall said:

The 7W Thomann thing looks like it wouldn't do for anything bigger than a child's bedroom, unless the ambient lighting is very low, but if there's a bigger version?

The Rosco thing looks clever, even if it does look like it's made of plastic, but I can't work out how the light gets through (it appears to have DMX in & out, so maybe this is not the correct image?).

yeh its a bit puney. they do have a 60w one that looks a bit more like, if anyone remembers the ikea gobo light. 

Its obviously quite hard to say "it needs to be x" when we dont have a spec for anything. 

Current solution is a 6k lumen projector which is very sledgehammery.

[J Pearce]

18 hours ago, the kid said:

Current solution is a 6k lumen projector which is very sledgehammery.

Talk to Optikinetics. They have various gobo projecting solutions, many of which will probably take a laser printed acetate gobo for short term usage.

[Tomo]

On 10/26/2023 at 7:18 AM, the kid said:

Not the maddest idea. I think that s4jr might even be too big.  

 

ColorSource Spot jr could be an option. M-size gate, RGBL (normal or deep blue option). 5700lm

https://www.etcconnect.com/Products/Entertainment-Fixtures/ColorSource-Spot-jr/Features.aspx

Or of course an actual Source Four Mini LED. E-size gate.

Edited October 27, 2023 by Tomo