paulears Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 We rationalised our racks from 8-10U size to just one 24U because you can wheel it to the van, and then just tip it over onto it's back and slide it in - a one man job compared to the two old ones that needed two people to load/unload. This weekend we've just discovered we're playing in a field, in a giant teepee (sp??) It will be a push from the nearest parking and with the iffy weather the ground will be soggy. The rack is heavy - 4 amps plus lots of other content. Anybody got any neat and simple methods to get this across a field. I'm thinking maybe a few bits of ply to lay down to do an Egyptian leap frog process, but not really sure what to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Golf buggy. Or as you say some plywood sheets. Get them to provide a Defender flatbed? Really it should be the venue that provides infrastructure and support. But yeah, best to assume that they wont, or it will be there for the in but on the out you are strangely on your own, at 3:00 in the rain.....Full sized Avo rack and Socapex trunks over muddy field - thats nasty, yet we have to do it every year at Glastonbury circus, have yet to get the truck anywhere near the stage. We did get some boards this year which helps, although they were slippery melamine coated which was interesting - but better than nowt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImagineerTom Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 A decent sack trolley with pneumatic wheels will get it across the field in surprisingly harsh conditions and without the bad back and time wasting involved in running back and forth with ply sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrummerJonny Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 In the past when faced with this I've tipped the cases onto a wheelboard with larger wheels that those on the case. This works better than a tall case that tips over easily when stuck, but if the ground is soaked, as it most likely will be, then a couple of sheets of ply and your method may well work better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xllx Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 It really depends how heavy and how far you need to move it... Options in no particular order are: 1 Temporary track as you suggest.2 Speak to organisers and get them to put in a track3 All terrain forklift if there is one on site4 Local crew (or the band)! Depending how heavy it is, and assuming it is not too top heavy, 4 people might be your best bet and just carry it in stages pausing for a rest if needed.5 Put the rack on something with bigger wheels more suited to terrain, in the past I have used sack barrows, nursery carts and even wheelbarrows on outdoor sites. Look at building and nursery trade websites. Also useful generally for ferrying other kit to the tent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 I suspect, based on previous events that the arrival will be fine, but at midnight, in the dark, the helpers will vanish. I do actually have one of those balloon tyred sack barrows that could be a good one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xllx Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I suspect, based on previous events that the arrival will be fine, but at midnight, in the dark, the helpers will vanish. I do actually have one of those balloon tyred sack barrows that could be a good one? Sack barrows with good pneumatic tyres are good as long as the rack is not too top heavy and as long as the lifting plate will fit between the wheels on your case. You will probably need two people pulling the trolley, definitely easier than pushing! I've successfully moved Avo 48way FD racks like this, sounds like you need to do a test with your trolley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkPAman Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I can get a rack on this one side on, and the big toe makes it quite stable. I got it after the first of a series of events at the end of a cobbled pathway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the kid Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 +1 for those. Ratchet strap and job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 I've just googled the address and it's a posh farm with paddock, so not too far - so the ideas look great guys - thanks! My geography is pretty bad, so West Yorkshire isn't where I thought! This appears to be between Leeds and Bradford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyro_gearloose Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 If its on a farm, then surely they'll have something suitable for moving things over rough ground? I'm thinking that maybe they'll have one of those small 4wd flatbeds, or a quad bike with a trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistermorton Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 As has been noted, the large, pneumatic tyres are your friend, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsharp7th Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Ground Guards with are a great alternative to plywood, since discovering them I've regularly had them deployed along load in routes on grass, and they have helped rescue a few stuck vehicle too. (they have a checkerplate pattern vehicle side, and a smooth textured pedestrian side, which is ideal for flight cases) This firm is West Yorkshire based and hires them out: http://ground-guards.name/uk/products/road-track/ I'm surprised more firms who regularly have to unload their own equipment on unfamiliar greenfield sites don't invest in a few of their own to keep in the truck rather than assuming site production will always provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerry davies Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Pneumatic tyres, bigger the better.One DJ pitches tents, one DJ finds cafe we can get free breakfast for playing at and one DJ steals a builders wheelbarrow while Kerry has cup of tea on arrival on site. Them's the rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave m Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 slightly off topic but cheap.an alternative for the ply I needed to shift a couple of tons of top-soil from my drive to the bottom of the garden and only have a domestic wheel barrow. It was a wet autumn I got a couple of sheets of hardboard cut into 24" strips and laid a track. It cost almost nothing and the hardboard stood up really well.Depends on your wheel width, but very cheap.I'd bet the point load for my wheelbarrow would be the same as for a loaded rack or trolley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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