djmatthill Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 THIS IS THE SYSTEMCan I use Standard Flat Twin & Earth cable to extend the cable from Detinator Unit and the Firing Pod on this Le Maitre Cannon System? We are looking to install the cable in a semi permanent way, I will be using Flexible 15A 2 Core Mains Cable either end of the F T E as Tails. The F T E will be installed above a false ceiling. Has anyone got the electrical specs for this system ? Thanks Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 http://www.blue-room.org.uk/index.php?showtopic=60611&view=&hl=&fromsearch=1 what's your obsession with twin and earth for everything? I would say consider what happens if you confuse a sparky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmatthill Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 http://www.blue-room.org.uk/index.php?showtopic=60611&view=&hl=&fromsearch=1 what's your obsession with twin and earth for everything? I would say consider what happens if you confuse a sparky... ** laughs out loud ** <img src='http://www.blue-room.org.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':** laughs out loud **:' /> Hi Dave , We have a large quantity of Flat Twin & Earth at our disposal for Free - That`s why I`m hell bent on using it for everything ;) But seriously , If I were using it to to feed the Pyro pods which I`ve just been told are infact 240V using 2 Cores & The earth , would this be in keepingwith the rules & Regs. ? I know many factories that use F T E for switching purposes with no issues. Would a qualified sparky really just see FTE and cut in to or use it without being 100% surewhat it was feeding ?I do however understand how using FTE for audio could confuse a sparky and thus chhanged the for 2 core speaker cable in relation to my earlier post Thanks Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 As the cannons are indeed mains powered there is nothing wrong with using T&E. Just in the interest of neatness I'd be inclined to run T&E between a pair of wall boxes fitted with Powercons and then make up some Powercon to Powercon flexes to go from controller to wall box, and wall box to cannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P-W Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I will be using Flexible 15A 2 Core Mains Cable either end I`ve just been told are infact 240V using 2 Cores & The earth So you won't be using 2 core flex as you need 3 core for the earth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 WHile fixed wiring will work and suitably identified T&E will work, remember that the cannons need reloading each time so please check access, They may need to be moved to be refilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmeh2 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 As the cannons are indeed mains powered there is nothing wrong with using T&E. Just in the interest of neatness I'd be inclined to run T&E between a pair of wall boxes fitted with Powercons and then make up some Powercon to Powercon flexes to go from controller to wall box, and wall box to cannon.<br />I agree with Brian's post, however instead of using Powercon, I'd be tempted to use a unique connector to prevent someone from sticking the wrong thing in the wrong hole.<br /><br />Bulgin make mains-rated connectors in a variety of formats.<br /><br /><a href='http://www.bulgin.co.uk/Products/GenPurpose_Connectors/GenPurpose_Connectors.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.bulgin.co...Connectors.html</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmatthill Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 I will be using Flexible 15A 2 Core Mains Cable either end[/quote I posted this before I found out the pods were 240v , I thought they were 12 volt like some of the other pyro stuff. I`ve just been told are infact 240V using 2 Cores & The earth So you won't be using 2 core flex as you need 3 core for the earth... [/quote I'll be using standard 3 core mains flex As the cannons are indeed mains powered there is nothing wrong with using T&E. Just in the interest of neatness I'd be inclined to run T&E between a pair of wall boxes fitted with Powercons and then make up some Powercon to Powercon flexes to go from controller to wall box, and wall box to cannon.<br />I agree with Brian's post, however instead of using Powercon, I'd be tempted to use a unique connector to prevent someone from sticking the wrong thing in the wrong hole.<br /><br />Bulgin make mains-rated connectors in a variety of formats.<br /><br /><a href='http://www.bulgin.co.uk/Products/GenPurpose_Connectors/GenPurpose_Connectors.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.bulgin.co...Connectors.html</a> the pods will be located in an isolated area that is normally not accessible so I think on this occasion Powercons should do the trick. Infact I think the pods are fitted with female powercons ? Thanks for all your help guys. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanhill Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Neutrik classify the powerCON as type A and type B: Type A (blue) source Type B (grey) drain powerCON is not the standard configuration of plug and socket, it may be more helpful to think of them as source and drain. It looks like Le Maitre actually use type B for both the outlets on the firing box and the air cannons themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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