Ike Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Even the more basic ideas are up for debate. For example most of us know to double back the wire before inserting it into the terminal but why? Well as I recall by doubling the amount of soft metal within the terminal you're supposed to get a better connection but has anyone actually tested this scientifically and anyway why do we need a better connection? It could be argued that 13A plugs are tested without the cable doubled back so the only time you would need to do so is if you were using the plug in conditions to which it's not suited or if your workmanship was poor. It could also be suggested that by doubling back the conductors you are reducing the terminations safety as if the cord grip was to fail instead of cleanly pulling away from the live terminals the cables could unfold and allow the equipment to remain energised even though the plug was now a hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjkered Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I was taught at Rolls Royce Technical College in Bristol. Bar all the bits about putting covers on first, cable grips etc. They taught a fundamentaly different way of treating the copper wire on a 13amp plug, but you can apply up to 16amp 1 Strip back about 2 inchs ( 4 to 5 cms of Insulation from the cores). A lot I know but here is why.2. Separate about 4 individual strands from one of the cores and proceed to start to wrap it around the remainder of the core so creating a wrap around from the insulation.3. Repeat this on all the live, earth and neutral.3. This gives you a mechanicallly stronger point to screw down on to when you put it in the pin ( after sniping the wrapped core to the corect length) Any one come across this or am I just too old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davethsparky Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I was taught at Rolls Royce Technical College in Bristol. Bar all the bits about putting covers on first, cable grips etc. They taught a fundamentaly different way of treating the copper wire on a 13amp plug, but you can apply up to 16amp 1 Strip back about 2 inchs ( 4 to 5 cms of Insulation from the cores). A lot I know but here is why.2. Separate about 4 individual strands from one of the cores and proceed to start to wrap it around the remainder of the core so creating a wrap around from the insulation.3. Repeat this on all the live, earth and neutral.3. This gives you a mechanicallly stronger point to screw down on to when you put it in the pin ( after sniping the wrapped core to the corect length) Any one come across this or am I just too old Yes, I've come across something similar in electricity meters and henley blocks when replacing very old tails, it was often done so that a small conductor can be made to better fill the terminal. I was taught to double over conductors so that they 'fill' the terminal. The reasoning behind this is that a terminal screw will often cut through a single conductor when being tightened but is a lot less likely to happen if you have double the amount of copper in the terminal. This is often seen in light switches with small solid cored cables but does sometimes occur with small flexes in plug terminals. And when connecting stranded core cables onto terminals where you just have a screw and a washer I was taught to peel back one strand and wrap it once around the others at the point where the insulation finishes to hold them together when you split the rest of the strands in half to put them either side of the terminals. Except with little flexes where you just do a complete loop around the screw with all of the strands in a clockwise direction. But I'm sure other people have been taught other methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidso Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Crimps. Always been taught when crimp, crimp. This includes 16A and up. Put a small terminal crimp on the end. Neater and less chance of strays. And for big bolt terminals like gensets large lugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robindau Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 (That said, a friend of mine wired a plug with Live going to Ground!!! Luckily we noticed) technical support from my teacher when I was in school. do you think so? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljoshua Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I will (eventually) publish some of those who took the time, but come on guys - let's see some more confidence in your abilities.....It has now been over 2 months since you posted this. Please, Please, Please can you now tell us the results. Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam L F Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 I've been shown how to re-wire or wire up a plug if needed, but I've never had the chance to do it, due to my old school being very hot on anything electrical, we were not aloud to go anywhere near them. -Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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