MarkPAman Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 This noise-boy is wondering why Powercon has not been mentioned yet. ;) Small, easy to wire, one handed plugging/unplugging, 20A (and 32A I think). :o Needs an adaptor to link two leads and can not be hot plugged. :( What have I missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peternewman Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 This noise-boy is wondering why Powercon has not been mentioned yet. :o What have I missed?Expensive. Proprietary. ;) I wasn't around when 15A was a household or even non theatre connector, but certainly AFAIK now there aren't many options for 15A connectors apart from the Duraplug, Permaplug and the rubbish plastic/ceramic type ones that break if you touch them. I find this quite interesting, especially when on the other hand 16As have a much larger market, both theatre, industry and caravans, which I think can only really be a good thing and must have helped to bring down the price significantly, therefore helping to persuade people to change. I don't know about Powercon, but I doubt its got the IP rating compared to Ceeform, certainly if you look at the IP65/68 etc, which is yet another benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonino Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 And it isn't a market standard connector, therefore its very unlikely it will take over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisD Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Another vote for powercon I'm afraid. Far less bulky than 16 or 15A, but agreed, it is proprietary and has a low IP rating. Not a massive problem in theatre though. Failing powercon, 16A for me! It's a far safer connector in my opinion, far less chance of electrocuting yourself if connecting whilst live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 A university near here has their patch bay in one of their studio spaces as Powercon. Standard NZ sockets in the grid, and Powercon to NZ plug leads for patching. Only disadvantage- they are not rated for hot patching, so much so that you run the risk of damaging the connectors if you have a 20A load going through that you make or break live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Powercon do not need a tool to expose the live conductors so should never escape into d0m3stic use. The cost of labour to change a socket still exceeds the extra cost of the 15a connector. Once there is a change all sockets edict some venues will suffer due to the cost of the additional rewire and refit program that suddenly appears necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzly Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Powercon do not need a tool to expose the live conductors so should never escape into d0m3stic use. They do if you follow the assembly instructions correctly (see the 'Assembly Instruction PDF on this page: http://www.neutrik.com/uk/en/industry/204_...oductlist.aspx) Fasten bushing by means of a fork wrench 3/4”, min. Torque 2.5 Nm (1.8 lb-ft). but admittedly, it would be easy not to assemble one like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPlater1 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 I bet that quite a few people could undo a Powercon (that has been tightened using a tool) by hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzly Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 I bet that quite a few people could undo a Powercon (that has been tightened using a tool) by hand. It would be lot harder than you'd think, with a properly tightened Powercon.I've tried to do it, and haven't managed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatman Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Powercon seems like a bad idea to me as there is no in-line socket. An extension cable would require both power-in and power-out connectors as well as a loose adaptor. The latter will inevitably grow legs and move itself to a different flight case from the cables, in just the same way as the Speakon extension adaptors always do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peternewman Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 I thought I was going crazy, but it seems I'm only partially wrong. Neutrik don't currently produce an inline Powercon socket, but given they now do a Speakon one, I imagine it can only be a matter of time. However dealing with the multiple types of plugs and sockets could get quite confusing I'd imagine. Of course I may be getting confused by the Powercon system myself, and the concept of a Powercon socket and extension lead may be impossible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuddy Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Powercon do not need a tool to expose the live conductors so should never escape into d0m3stic use.>SNIP< <_< Neither does a dom stic pendant set (Ceiling rose & lampholder), in fact if you remove the lamp, pokey, pokey fingers can..... . . . . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Whitehead Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I have just modified my LED par cans, http://www.brightlightservices.co.uk/Servi...files/frame.htm click on equipment services and up will come some pictures of the modification. Your views and opions are welcome. Not the main idea here is to be able to daisy chain the power! Thanks sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baldwin Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Sam, your web site doesn't work for Firefox users. Probably doesn't work for anybody not paying the M$ tax, in fact. Any chance you could link to some static images? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I have just modified my LED par cans,Theoretically not a bad idea, but as Peter has pointed out above, Neutrik don't appear to make an in-line Powercon socket.... making extending the reach of these a little tricky. I'm assuming here (never yet having used Powercon) that there are female double-ended connectors in the same way that Speakons can be extended, but those are pretty easy to mislay/get stolen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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