Ian_P Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 All, I am looking to replace a set of working lights that I use to put a little glow into the wings so actors and crew can see. At present, I use standard white plastic bayonet holders with blue gel gaffered onto them. These are then wired in a long line back to a socket. 25W pygmy lamps complete this set-up. This works, but I feel a neater job could be done, and I keep breaking them, as well as they look rubbish. The requirements are: Neat and small with the ability to mask the light so it doesn't glow onto stage, but glows down. Ability to add or subtract units easily.Easy to quickly hang up on a get in.Robust and preferably not made of plastic. Your comments, ideas and thoughts will be gratefully recieved. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam.henderson Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 with blue gel gaffered onto them I tried to do this in a production and got a right ticking off from the Technical Manager ;) cause it is majorly against Health and safety. I was told under no circumstances to do it any where in the Theatre!! Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Have you got any spare 300-650w lanterns kicking about that aren't be used on the rig? If so you can hang these were ever you can get power to them, put in some L120 (or similar) and blackwrap the spill light out. Just an idea (one I use quite often) Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomLyall Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 you could always get some festoon lighting, (just not the bright yellow stuff! well that'd be 110v anyway so really dont get that) just an idea, of course youd want to change the bulbs for something a 'little' less powerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Florescent tubes with a tube of gel around them. If you want to get really smart you can make up a sleeve which only lets out light in a given direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeggie Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 hi, have you tried... desk lamps with blue lamps in them - the lamps are about 25 watts and last a while. depending on the size of backstage wings, you could use some minims with barn doors on low and with l181 in them. or use those outdoor lights [cubic like, rectangles - seen above doors as exit signs] with blue gel over the coverabove the working area. cheersandrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Inspection lamps like this one are good for wing workers - you can wrap some colour around the cage to dull them down, or use blackwrap and mask them off to avoid spill. Having a few anglepoises around for props table, etc. is also a good idea, with an assortment of blue bulbs and low-wattage pygmy bulbs. And a knackered old fresnel that's no use for anything else is just the job for general wing illumination - rig it in the wing downstage as high as possible, put a bit of 119 in front of it, job done! (You might need to mask it off the stage a little bit if the set's fairly open ...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy! Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 What about a UV? light or using LEE 181 around a lamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 What about a UV? light or using LEE 181 around a lamp?Lee 181 - too dark, hardly better than not having any workers at all.UV?! As wing workers?! You gotta be joking, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam.henderson Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 What about a UV UV in the wings ;) ??? Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomLyall Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. ive just had the best idea, lets paint embarasing things on costumes in UV paint, hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeggie Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 done it. got the insulting t-shirt.and then later, got severly told off. [well, the crew thought it was funny] cheersandrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefy Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Birdies are the way forward for show working light. You can choose the wattage and angle to suit your needs, you can choose what gel you want, they are small and will not get in the way and finally they look great!! (also they are quite cheep!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ike Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 with blue gel gaffered onto them I tried to do this in a production and got a right ticking off from the Technical Manager ;) <_< cause it is majorly against Health and safety. I was told under no circumstances to do it any where in the Theatre!! Sam Why? Saying something is against health and safety is no use to anyone. I find it hard to believe that the health and safety at work act contains a clause saying you shouldnt stick blue gell to lamps/lanterns. I am not blaming sam as I know he was just repeating what his TM said but this has got to be one of my worst pet hates...sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 I've seen a standard (plastic) desk lamp literally melt and catch fire due to having a dark blue gel gaffered to the front of it. I imagine it was getting too hot inside the lamp enclosure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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