timsabre Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Handily, the headphone socket can be used alongside the aux so I am going to use the headphone jack to feed a powered monitor speaker whilst the aux sends to the desk. Need to get a good whack for the piano monitor but for no one else.That's useful, on the clavinova at my daughter's school the headphone jack cuts off the line out signal. I can't think of a situation where that would be useful, but Yamaha obviously thought it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadhippy Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Handily, the headphone socket can be used alongside the aux so I am going to use the headphone jack to feed a powered monitor speaker whilst the aux sends to the deskwhat make of DI's are you using? as the usual way of doing this is to feed the keyboard into the di and use the link output on the di to feed your monitor and the di's balanced output to feed your mixer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorStar Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 It is literally the cheapest one Thomann had for sale 5 years ago......I think I had change from a tenner. It has a link socket on the same fascia as the input. Timsabre: What was a little weird when plugging in the headphone jack there appeared to be a second sound inside the machine that sounded like a relay.........I will double check again later in the week with my mini PA mixer rig.Time for another round of testing........... KRDrS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunray Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Does the line out cut off the internal speakers? I don't recall that being a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorStar Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 The line out doesn't cut the internal speaker but set against a band the speaker is a little puny. One improvement I'm trying to make is that the pianist wants to feel they're playing and so asks for a pile of piano in the monitor. However, no one else wants 110% piano in their wedges. We end up wasting one of the two channels of monitors just to satisfy the piano players.I want a dedicated monitor speaker for the piano player. The DI box kills two birds with one stone. KRDrS no birds were hurt in the writing of this post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I want a dedicated monitor speaker for the piano player. The DI box kills two birds with one stone.Then the piano player will want other parts of the mix in the piano monitor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunray Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I want a dedicated monitor speaker for the piano player. The DI box kills two birds with one stone.Then the piano player will want other parts of the mix in the piano monitor...I was just about to make the same comment as Tim.One of my jobs we ended up with a small mixer taking the DI feed, one of the monitors and the house then leaving the mix entirely up to the organist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBird Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Handily, the headphone socket can be used alongside the aux so I am going to use the headphone jack to feed a powered monitor speaker whilst the aux sends to the desk. Need to get a good whack for the piano monitor but for no one else.That's useful, on the clavinova at my daughter's school the headphone jack cuts off the line out signal. I can't think of a situation where that would be useful, but Yamaha obviously thought it was. That's just seems silly! I play the piano regularly on stage and I'm also a bit of a part time soundy. Is that across the board with Yamaha's do you know (I'm a Roland boy!)? Timsabre: What was a little weird when plugging in the headphone jack there appeared to be a second sound inside the machine that sounded like a relay.........I will double check again later in the week with my mini PA mixer rig. What machine sorry, was it in the piano? Every stage piano that I've used will mute the speakers on itself when something is plugged into the headphone output(s) but will allow the line outs to remain. I've never heard a secondary sound from one :S The line out doesn't cut the internal speaker but set against a band the speaker is a little puny. One improvement I'm trying to make is that the pianist wants to feel they're playing and so asks for a pile of piano in the monitor. However, no one else wants 110% piano in their wedges. We end up wasting one of the two channels of monitors just to satisfy the piano players. I've played a few times with a decent set of cans from the headphone output which will mute the speakers on the piano but are reactive to the volume on the piano along with a generic mix from a monitor. Could always suggest that you can push your normal mix through the monitors and the pianist can then have as much / little piano as they would like through their headphones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I think this his where the little hot-spot style monitors come into their own - small, close, little mixer, and blow anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I think this his where the little hot-spot style monitors come into their own - small, close, little mixer, and blow anyone else. Yes, this is the sort of thing Paul means - you can feed a full band monitor mix from the mixer, and also take the piano feed in directly - the musician can then set their own mix. They are quite directional so if positioned correctly the musician can get a good blast of their own sound without blowing everyone else away https://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/Behringer-Eurolive-B205D-Active-150W-PA-Monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistermorton Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 For some reason that link is broken, Tim. Try This Active Monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 For some reason that link is broken, Tim. Try This Active Monitor Ta. Google added about 5 pages of tracking links on the end which I tried to remove but obviously failed. Anyway we use those monitors at my church for people who need "more me" and they are very effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunray Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Ta. Google added about 5 pages of tracking links on the end which I tried to remove but obviously failed. Anyway we use those monitors at my church for people who need more me' and they are very effective.I'll give them my approval too, one of the guys I sometimes work with has a load and uses them as the PA system with surprisingly good results. But I object to trailing mains and line level cables around a field for a fete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 For a fete??? Why would you use those for a fete? Wrong tool for the job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunray Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 For a fete??? Why would you use those for a fete? Wrong tool for the job...You know that, and I know that.But he seems to like the system. The great thing about the 205's is the size and weight, they are only about 12x8" and mount on a mic stand/boom with ease, I must add that it does seem to work OK.He also has their 12" & 15" bigger brothers but all of his speakers are powered, he even rolls 50m 'mic' lead and mains on the same drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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