Roderick Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Found an old Harmony without the cable.Bought a standard 15A IEC plug but it doesn't fit.What is the correct name / type of connector? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Superhot C15A IEC. Schurter part 4310.0003 (female line connector) or 4310.0010 for Right Angle.The Apsa equivalents are 1048/SW (straight) 1048/WS (straight in white) and 1148/SW (right angle) though I found the 1148 to be flimsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springgrove Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Superhot C15A IEC. Schurter part 4310.0003 (female line connector) or 4310.0010 for Right Angle.The Apsa equivalents are 1048/SW (straight) 1048/WS (straight in white) and 1148/SW (right angle) though I found the 1148 to be flimsy RS in the UK stock them, so probably RS in Australia does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barreller Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I picked up Prelude F a while back which has had the Strand connector replaced with an iec one. There doesn't seem to be an overheating problem. Does anybody else have experience of this? I know that Harmonys might run a little hotter being 1kW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward- Z88 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I picked up Prelude F a while back which has had the Strand connector replaced with an iec one. There doesn't seem to be an overheating problem. Does anybody else have experience of this? I know that Harmonys might run a little hotter being 1kW. Yes a couple of my second hand Prelude 22/40s have IEC inlets that had obviously been added somewhere since purchase, not a problem as Kettle style IEC (HOT IEC) fit into IEC, just not the other way round... Edward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I picked up Prelude F a while back which has had the Strand connector replaced with an iec one. There doesn't seem to be an overheating problem. Does anybody else have experience of this? I know that Harmonys might run a little hotter being 1kW.Yes a couple of my second hand Prelude 22/40s have IEC inlets that had obviously been added somewhere since purchase, not a problem as Kettle style IEC (HOT IEC) fit into IEC, just not the other way round...Edward Could be a problem though - the "hot" connector is designed to be used on things that get hot - it uses a different kind of plastic so it doesn't melt. It has the notch in it so that you can't plug in a normal IEC cable which might also melt.The back of the fixture does get hot. Either Strand used this connector to force you to buy their spares, or they really thought it needed that temperature rating... what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward- Z88 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I picked up Prelude F a while back which has had the Strand connector replaced with an iec one. There doesn't seem to be an overheating problem. Does anybody else have experience of this? I know that Harmonys might run a little hotter being 1kW.Yes a couple of my second hand Prelude 22/40s have IEC inlets that had obviously been added somewhere since purchase, not a problem as Kettle style IEC (HOT IEC) fit into IEC, just not the other way round...Edward Could be a problem though - the "hot" connector is designed to be used on things that get hot - it uses a different kind of plastic so it doesn't melt. It has the notch in it so that you can't plug in a normal IEC cable which might also melt.The back of the fixture does get hot. Either Strand used this connector to force you to buy their spares, or they really thought it needed that temperature rating... what do you think? Hmm interesting, on the Prelude range as they are 650w and inlet mounted on the bottom of the fixture it probably doesn't exceed the heat limit of a standard IEC, however on Harmonys being almost twice the power the different type plastic connector is probably necessary. Maybe Strand decided to keep all their fixtures with the same connector for compatibility of cables etc. Edward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roderick Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 Trying to source one is more difficult than expected. RS is out of stock and the minimum order is 50... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Trying to source one is more difficult than expected. RS is out of stock and the minimum order is 50...CPC carry a fair stock of Schurter stuff - http://cpc.farnell.com/search?st=schurter%20iec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgallen Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 http://www.proiec.co.uk/shop/4581298380/kaiser-789-iec-c15-10a-super-hot-condition-female-155-deg-easy-wire/11166607 http://www.leadsdirect.co.uk/shop/iec-c15a-socket-rewireable/ I'll keep looking. Stage Electrics and usedlighting used to stock them, but seems no more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barreller Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 10 out of 10 list them. http://www.10outof10.co.uk/acatalog/IEC-CONNECTORS.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandall Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Strand & CCT used different styles of IEC inlets. IIRC CCT, who made their lanterns from kits of parts, used "standard" connectors (as listed by 10outor10), but Strand, being Strand, used their own design, in which case you may need to do a bit of metal-bashing to make it fit (always assuming that you have a piece of paper to say that you've done the 2-day Makita, file & hacksaw course & ticked at least half the boxes). E2A: if you need to use Araldite, don'tuse the "rapid" stuff - it's only rated to 65C, & the back-end of a 1kW pointing down gets a lot hotter than that (hence the use of "hot-condition" connectors). Personally I wouldn't dream of using a standard plastic IEC on a halogen lantern, of any wattage (or anything else I couldn't rest my finger on). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 CPC and Farnell don't sell the Schurter Superhot IEC, ACET quoted me something like £8 each for one. RS like you say only sell them 50 at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRW Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 These ones from CPC are the ones you want. I've been using them for the past few years with no adverse effects. The page in the catalogue even says they're good for up to 155'C, and says 'Ideal for use with professional stage lighting. e.g. Strand Theatre Profiles'. £3.80 each for less than 10. The only thing I'd say about them is the screw that holds them together doesn't do a great job, so I have started popping a bit of superglue round the edge furthest from the lantern (i.e. the back of the socket) to help hold them closed. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandall Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Oops - Just realised I was talking about the fixed male, not the cable female :(. IRW's CPC offering look exactly like the old Strand connectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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