mark_s Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I just picked up a new swatchbook today as my old one must be about half a decade old and missing a good 75% of the colours I was considering using for an upcoming production. There is no numerical index. Perhaps I'm just being a bit precious, but it's nigh on impossible to find things quickly now unless you don't know what you're looking for and want to peruse! Why did Lee think that this would be a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niclights Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I'm fairly sure there are a few different versions (website currently lists five). Some are chromatic, some numeric. IIRC the chromatic has the numbers on the back. Which one do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_s Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 I have the Designers Edition - the chromatic one - and the numerical index in the back no longer appears to be there. Seems a bit stupid, as now there's no quick way to find a specific colour other than by using the numerical version... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRW Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I have the Designers Edition - the chromatic one - and the numerical index in the back no longer appears to be there. Seems a bit stupid, as now there's no quick way to find a specific colour other than by using the numerical version... I noticed this last time I had a batch of designer's editions sent over for student use. Bloody pain in the arse if you don't have something in stock and you want to find the closest equivalents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Pearce Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Yep, same at work. The designers' edition no longer has the index. We stock both numerical and designers' editions to get round this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roderick Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Another nail in the coffin for the art of lighting design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Pearce Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 It's worth noting the website and various apps are quite good at giving you the nearest alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the kid Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 There are some good apps or "A" good app out for droid. I did get a few years back some Lee books that were pocket books that were just listing colours and uses, handy in their own way. I have been hunting the lee chinagraph swag for ages, not found any for ages so I guess they have stopped those :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_s Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 It's worth noting the website and various apps are quite good at giving you the nearest alternatives. ...but then when you want to actually look at the colour, you have no chance of ever finding it! That's how my problem came about - I was perusing the website and noticed a relatively new colour in the designer series that theoretically looks perfect for something I'm currently doing. Finding it in the swatchbook was really quite dull. Any idea why they've actually removed the index? It took up less than ten pages and was far more useful than the five page explanation of how the filters are made and the explanation of HT filters that's at the other end and still there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Pearce Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Use the numerical version to find gels that you've discovered from the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRW Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 It's all very well saying use the website, then a numeric edition, but when you're sat in a control box next to the gel cabinet without internet or mobile phone coverage (of which I have come across plenty), the designer's editor with numeric listing comes in very useful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Get an intern to re-sort a swatch into numerical order :P :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_s Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 It just seems to negate most of the point of the chromatic version, unless you're actually starting from scratch (and how many LDs do that - start a design and make absolutely no relation to their favourite Lee* colours when developing their ideas)? I'd quite often pick up a swatchbook and see what's similar to - for example - 711, which the Designers Edition is great at doing, but only if you can find 711 in the first place! Now it would seem the only method that doesn't involve flipping through blindly to find your initial colour is to look up alternatives on the website, and then find them in the numerical version! That is ridiculous. *other brands available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Allen Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 FYI - from the Australian distributor of Lee Monday 17 February 2014 Hi Don, Thank you for your email concerning Lee Lighting Filter Swatchbooks. The current swatchbook has a “ Blue Pin” through it.The Designer Version of this swatch no longer has a Numeric Index in the back of it as the Numeric Version of the Swatchbook has been reinstated again in its own right. Best RegardsGeoff Geoffrey HamiltonMediavision Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRW Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 FYI - from the Australian distributor of Lee Monday 17 February 2014 Hi Don, Thank you for your email concerning Lee Lighting Filter Swatchbooks. The current swatchbook has a " Blue Pin" through it.The Designer Version of this swatch no longer has a Numeric Index in the back of it as the Numeric Version of the Swatchbook has been reinstated again in its own right. Best RegardsGeoff Geoffrey HamiltonMediavision Australia That surely has to rank among the highest 'most unhelpful, stating the bleeding obvious' replies to a question ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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