jonathanhill Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Hi All, Does anyone have any suggestions for suppliers for bespoke gas fire effects? Laurence Harvey did the fire effects for Great Expectations West End and tour, but I don't have contact details. I have a show coming up that requires a fire effect for one scene. Gas seems to be the most controllable effect, as opposed to Flame Paste or similar. However, I am open to suggestions from the collective knowledge of the Blue Room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Define gas fire effect.Do you mean a domestic gas fire or an effect to generate a flame ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lite_lad Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Try walk the plank! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyromonkey Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 drop us an email: dan@pyrojunkies.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanhill Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 Sorry, I mean an effect to simulate a fire. Cheers pyromonkey, I will pass on your contact details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Sorry, I mean an effect to simulate a fire. I assume you mean this... ...as opposed to this... ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanhill Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Yes, the first picture is the correct type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 OK. I therefore have to ask - is there really a need for this to be a real gas fired set piece?Because having something on a stage set like this would raise a LOT of questions were it on my stage. There are a number of different ways to achieve the effect of a gas fire which involve making it look like a gas flame, and 99 out of 100 punters (or more) wouldn't look long enough at it to be able to make a distinction. So can you tell us please why you think it HAS to be gas...?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanhill Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 The designer wants a fire pit on/in the stage floor, and I am investigating the possibilities of using real flame. The designer has specified real flames and from seeing real flames on various other shows, using an electrically controlled gas supply, I feel that this type of system allows the control necessary, as opposed to something like Flame Paste which has an unpredictable burn time and produces an unacceptable, in this situation, volume of smoke. The previous shows that I have seen this effect and control system used have all been in London's glittering West End, administered by Westminster Council with no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I'm imagining a fire pit, and in doing so it looks absolutely nothing like the first picture posted above that you say "is the correct type". Is this just me? :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Lord save us from 'designers' who have seen an effect on the W/E stage and want to incorporate it into a budget performance. Sorry if this sounds negative, but messing about with live flame when you have no experience of doing so is rather dubious to say the least. It also raises a LOT of questions about suitability for the venue, and added (high) risks to the performers, crew and audience. So unless you are 100% confident that you can assess and manage the provision, maintenance and safety of this live fire on stage I would advise the director that it's not feasible and look at how you can do this without flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanhill Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Lord save us from 'designers' who have seen an effect on the W/E stage and want to incorporate it into a budget performance. They haven't. Sorry if this sounds negative, but messing about with live flame when you have no experience of doing so is rather dubious to say the least. It also raises a LOT of questions about suitability for the venue, and added (high) risks to the performers, crew and audience. I may not have experience of doing it, but have been involved, professionally, in numerous productions that have engaged reputable companies that do this day in, day out. I was just looking for contact information for Lawrence Harvey or Pyrotechnogy, which I now have. So unless you are 100% confident that you can assess and manage the provision, maintenance and safety of this live fire on stage I would advise the director that it's not feasible and look at how you can do this without flames. That's for the PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyb Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Try john coller, backstage technologies. He is based in calne. As well as playing with real flame, he does a good line in a steam and haze flame effects that he sold a lot of into Disney. Good luck.Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Petrie Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I've worked extensively in Film & TV as well as theatre and this effect can be achieved very easily and safely practically although I agree that surely it's much simpler to 'fake flame' it?! Feel free to PM me to discuss if you'd like. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanhill Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 We are sourcing the effect through Pyro Junkies. I will post pictures when we fit up. Thanks to all who responded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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