Stee_cri1 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Hi All, I have an interesting question for all as I have my opinion and my boss seems to have his. So the question is if I have two manfrotto's with a 6ft scaff bar and then hang a 25kg projector of it do I need a qualification to do this? Any advise would be greatly appreciated Thanks Guys Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I would say it comes down to a risk assessment. But if he signs off on your paycheck... wouldn't it be better to do it his way? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 If you know nothing and as a result of the qualification process, have gained the right skills, everyone is happy. If you already know how to do it safely, then the qualification is probably pointless. The trouble is really with your boss. If he or she believes you need to be qualified to do everything, then you'll never get any work done. Last week I jabbed somebody with an epipen waiting for an ambulance. Somebody in the room said they couldn't have done that, because they hadn't been epipen trained, and were getting qualified next week! I've never been trained, but I can read instructions. Add the weight of the scaff bar to the weight of the projector, look at the footprint of the legs, and make the call, once you've established how likely it is that somebody bumps into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 You don't *need* a qualification - but you have to be competent to carry out the task, and a qualification is one way of helping to prove that you are (although it won't, on its own, necessarily be conclusive evidence of competence). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Manfrotto whats? You need some kind of evidence that you are competent, satisfying the insurer is the important part. Is it your insurer or the boss's, if you have to satisfy the boss so that he can satisfy his insurer then there may be a need for some training but maybe not to full structural engineer level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerry davies Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Think about the arguments we have had here about forklift and MEWP ticketing. Those qualifications do not relieve the employer of their duty of care under HASAWA to satisfy themselves and the law of the competence of their workforce. Your boss could do that by inspecting your working methods, he does not need a qualification from a third party who may or may not be reliable. Should he decide you really do need a piece of paper in Manfrotto Manipulation Methods, I am more than happy to provide one following your visit to Wild Wales, at reasonable cost. Well, I reckon it would be reasonable, he won't! What kind of certificate would you like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seano Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 The OP says he has one opinion and his boss has another, but didn't actually mention who thinks what. Interesting that everyone replying to the thread so far has made the same assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stee_cri1 Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 Ha Seano that is very observant of you. I do have to say that presumptions have all been correct. I have spent many year putting up truss, stages and so on and so forth. He is the first person that has ever pulled me up for such a small thing, in my opinion. But I am glad to see that I am not alone in my thoughts. May be worth a chat with him I think. Well speak to him and let him shout ha ha ha Thank you all guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I use the phrase "standard industry practice" in method statements and nobody ever asks what exactly that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easter5053 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 so where would you get a certificate to use manfroto clamps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Assuming that by "manfrotto clamp" you mean a Super Clamp sort of device, what sort of certificate do you think you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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