arobinsonaudio Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 After spending ###### loads of money a year to get stuff PAT Tested I have decided it is time to buy one. Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can buy one? Moderation: Duplicate in Elec & Power deleted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I got mine, a Kewtech KT71, here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arobinsonaudio Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I would recommend not buying from PAT Training Services Limited. They contacted me over six months after dispatching my test equipment to request payment (they had made an error with the original transaction) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggy Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I assume you are also going to get some training in PAT testing (or have had some). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steevo Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Do you need a training course for these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arobinsonaudio Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 I have already done the training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtheenchanteruk Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 well, yes and no,you DO need to prove you are competent.IF something happened, and it was deemed to be an equipment fauly, YOU would have a hard time proving your competency without a bit of paper saying you are (IE a training course cert.) A copy of THIS is advisable too. Theres alot more to PAT than just whacking it on the machine and pressing go (if you do it properly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itiba Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I would recommend not buying from PAT Training Services Limited. They contacted me over six months after dispatching my test equipment to request payment (they had made an error with the original transaction) Well to be fair to them I did recently purchase a new multi function tester from them at 2 pm in the afternoon and the next morning it turned up in great condition (also at the best price I could find on the internet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrV Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I would recommend not buying from PAT Training Services Limited. They contacted me over six months after dispatching my test equipment to request payment (they had made an error with the original transaction) Well to be fair to them I did recently purchase a new multi function tester from them at 2 pm in the afternoon and the next morning it turned up in great condition (also at the best price I could find on the internet) I also bought a PAT tester from them fairly recently (October 11) and it arrived promptly without problems. Yorkie, was the payment dispute resolved? IMHO the mark of a good company is not whether they make occasional mistakes but how they resolve them. Dave (No connection with PTs!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigger Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Hi all, new member. When I bought a PAT (many moons ago) I got a Bar Code Scanner as well, each year this saves a lot of time as the item description and location is already known so you needn't enter it again. So it is literally:Test (1 button on pre programmed units)Scan (1 Click) When finished print test certificates and sign them off - job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Hi all, new member....When finished print test certificates and sign them off - job done. Hi, and welcome to the Blue Room. Sorry to do this to your first post but I couldn't disagree more. Industry figures point to 90%+ of faults being 'mechanical' in nature...loose cord grips, loose screws in plugs, damaged insulation, you get the idea. The time taken to perform the 'electrical' test makes up a fraction of the time taken to do a proper PAT test. In addition, a proper PAT test involves looking at the results and the previous result. Has the earth bond value changed? By how much? What might this indicate? Simply scanning a barcode, pressing 'Test' and printing the result does not, in my book nor the powers that be's book, constitute a proper PAT test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigger Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Hi all, new member....When finished print test certificates and sign them off - job done. Hi, and welcome to the Blue Room. Sorry to do this to your first post but I couldn't disagree more. Industry figures point to 90%+ of faults being 'mechanical' in nature...loose cord grips, loose screws in plugs, damaged insulation, you get the idea. The time taken to perform the 'electrical' test makes up a fraction of the time taken to do a proper PAT test. In addition, a proper PAT test involves looking at the results and the previous result. Has the earth bond value changed? By how much? What might this indicate? Simply scanning a barcode, pressing 'Test' and printing the result does not, in my book nor the powers that be's book, constitute a proper PAT test. Yes of course, I was refering to the use of the machine process compared to a basic machine. you cant speed up the rest of the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 As a newcomer to testing - I've found it a bit of a pest writing out the labels manually, and recording the results (as my tester doesn't do this) - but I've actually found the results interesting from the few items that did fail. Items that I thought unlikely to fail, but well used - had earth wires simply not tight. Really simple stuff to fix for a Pass - but unless I'd bought the tester, I'd probably have not thought to check. Many of the items I tested were inside the date on the existing labels stuck on my kit by external testers who had tested them when in various venues - but failed. So even with the Pass label on, were unsafe. I discovered age had little to do with the failures, just use! I was just keen to build up the database with initial results so the next tests mean something as per change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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