jameszoo Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I am working on a dance show and the choreographer wants to use some kind of dust on stage during the show. Anyone got any idea of what to use that won't irritate the dancers breathing too much? Have tried Climbing chalk so far but it seemed to get inhaled by the dancers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 What is the choreographer trying to achieve? What effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I think that I'd bounce this one at the choreographer - it's a dance problem, not a technical one. The dancers are going to take a lot of this into their lungs, being an aerobic activity, so I'd want them to select the substance, not me. I can't think of any substance that comes into contact with dirty surfaces that I personally would want in my lungs. The problem is loads of substances might work - but when identifying potential hazards, I'm not competent to say what is safe or not! It could be a medical one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erroneousblack Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Just remember that talcum powder and dance floors don't mix! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameszoo Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 The dancers throw it around a bit basically and stamp in it. But thanks for the words of warning guys. Another site recommended Fullers Earth so might give that one a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Paul is quite right - let the talent make the decision on what they want to use, but make sure that THEY are aware of the need to properly risk assess the potential hazards in doing so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
son of lx dad Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Have to agree with what the above have said. The only thing I can think of would be climbers chalk, but wouldn't want to clean up after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 The trouble is, I visited many web sites that identified it as harmless, however (isn't there always one)this data sheet is quite explicit in one area: Section 15 REVISION DATE: 22-Nov-06 - Rev 61SAFETY DATA SHEETFullers EarthLTP/181. IDENTIFICATION OF PRODUCT & COMPANYProduct Name: FULLERS EARTHDetails of company: Lionheart Terracotta ProductsTone Industrial EstateMilverton RoadWellingtonSomersetTA21 0AZTelephone: 01823 666 213Fax: 01823 665 685Email: info@ltp-online.co.uk1. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTSHazardous substances present on their own.(present in the preparation at a sufficient concentration to give it the toxicologicalcharacteristics it would have in a 100% pure state)This preparation contains no hazardous substances in this category.Other substances representing a hazard:No known substance in this category present.Substances present at a concentration below the minimum danger thresholdNo known substance in this category present.Other substances with occupational exposure limits.No known substance in this category present.3. HAZARD IDENTIFICATIONThis product is not classed as flammable. Refer to the recommendations regarding the otherProducts present on the site.This preparation is not classed as hazardous to health by directive 1999/45/EC.4. FIRST AID MEASURESAs a general rule, in case of doubt or if symptoms persist, always call a doctor.NEVER induce swallowing in an unconscious person.5. FIRE FIGHTING MEASURESNot relevant6. ACCIDENTAL RELEASE MEASURESPersonal precautions:Consult the safety measures listed under headings 7 & 8.Environmental precautionsPrevent any material from entering drains or waterways.Methods for cleaning upClean preferably with a detergent, do not use solvents.REVISION DATE: 22-Nov-06 - Rev 62Fullers EarthLTP/187. HANDLING AND STORAGEThe regulations relating to storage premises apply to workshops where the product ishandled.Fire prevention:Prevent access by unauthorised personnel8. EXPOSURE CONTROLSUse personal protection equipment as per Directive 89/686/EEC.Technical measures:Personnel shall wear regularly laundered overalls.9. PHYSICAL & CHEMICAL PROPERTIESGeneral information:Physical state: solid in granulesImportant health, safety and environmental information:pH of the substance or preparation: not relevantThe pH is impossible to measure or its value is not relevant.Boiling point/ boiling range: not relevantFlash point interval: not relevantVapour pressure: not relevantDensity: =1Water solubility: SolubleOther information:Melting point/melting range: not relevantSelf-ignition temperature: not relevantDecomposition point/decomposition range: not relevant10. STABILITY AND REACTIVITYThe preparation is stable at the handling and storage conditions recommended per section 7of the safety data sheet.11. TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATIONThe preparation contains no substance classed as hazardous per directive 67/548/EEC12. ECOLOGICAL INFORMATIONNo ecological data on the product itself is available.13. DISPOSAL CONSIDERATIONSDo not pour into drains or waterwaysWasteRecycle or dispose of waste in compliance with current legislation, preferably via a collectoror company.Do not contaminate the ground or water with waste, do not dispose of waste intoEnvironment.Soiled packaging:Empty container completely. Keep label(s) on container.Give to a certified contractor.14. TRANSPORT INFORMATIONExempt from transport classification and labelling.Transport product in compliance with provisions of the ADR for road, RID for rail, IMDG for seaand ICAO/IATA for air transport (ADR 2005-IMDG 2004-ICAO/IATA 2005)REVISION DATE: 22-Nov-06 - Rev 63Fullers EarthLTP/1815. REGULATORY INFORMATIONThis preparation was classified in compliance with the directive known as <All preparations>1999/45/EC and its adaptations.In addition directive 2004/73/EC with the 29oadaptation of directive 67/548/EC (Hazardoussubstances) have been taken into account.This preparation is not classed as hazardous to health by directive 1999/45/EC.This product is not classed as flammable.Particular hazards associated with the preparation and safety recommendations:S22 Do not breathe dustS51 Use only in well ventilated areasS 2 Keep out of reach of childrenPar measure de securite, utiliser uniquement pour l’ usage prevu et conformement au mode d’emploi.16. OTHER INFORMATIONSince the user’s working conditions are not known by us, the information supplied on thissafety data sheet is based on our current level of knowledge and on national and communityregulations.The product must not be used for any purposes other than those specified under heading 1without first obtaining written handling instructions.It is at all times the responsibility of the user to take all necessary measures to comply withlegal requirements and local regulations.The information given on this safety data sheet must be regarded as a description of the safetyrequirements relating to our product and not a guarantee of its properties.Full text of risk phrases appearing in section 2:This data sheet is compiled to be of assistance but is without guarantee. Users are responsible for safe working.March 09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerry davies Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Couple of points to be aware of James.1) The employer makes the RA not the employee. (Unless the employee is expert AND agrees to do it.)2) If you are at all unsure then you don't do it. Simply by asking here for advice shows that both one and two apply. Anything you use will have hazards and the risk of a severe asthma attack is not one to be contemplated. Been there, done that, went along in the ambulance as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigclive Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Is there ANY safe airborne particulate? The only dance of this style that comes to mind is the sand dance and that was not really prone to becoming airborne. I've just asked my nephew Davie Dimmers who works with a dance studio, and he says that the best way to make a lot of airborne dust quickly is to put a compressed air line into the choreographers leotard crotch. He did mention that it makes a rather odd smell though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Well, hey!Nice to hear that Davie is still going strong out there Clive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljoshua Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Does the choreographer specifically want a particulate that can be kicked up or would any low lying effect do? I'm thinking that low fog in the right situation would work if it fits with the choreographers vision for the piece. Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I can't really add anything to all the above other than that you read, and get the choreographer to read, this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_towers Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Have to agree with what the above have said. The only thing I can think of would be climbers chalk, but wouldn't want to clean up after that. Having just finished a production of Midsummer Night's Dream that involved lots of this stuff do not use it. The cleaning up of it is ridiculous, it get's everywhere! And I can't imagine anything like that is going to be good for the lungs. Usual disclaimer about not being medically qualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothingatall666 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I know this topic is getting a tad old. but thought I would share my recent experience.. The dancers used chalk (covered it all over clothes which were worn for that dance.. ) it an amazing effect! BUT. it covered everything! and I mean everything.. a really bad day to take my camera in. it left us hoovering for a few days after. the stage was a right mess!.. in fact the whole place was! I didn't have any problems with breathing.. and there were no complaints from cast.. even my contact aided eyes didn't have a problem ( and the theatre's usual dust can set my eyes off) not something I would want to experience a lot of times in the future.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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