partyadz Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Hi all Have a production coming up later in the year, and director is very keen to use some sort of falling snow effect. We currently have one of the Antari machines, but it sounds like a jet plane when switched on, so not suitable for this, as it's during a very quiet song! Just wondered what everyone's thoughts are? Width of proscenium arch is around 7m. Need to have something motorised/machine based, rather than stage hands throwing on bits of snow. I noticed that Antari do a silenced version, at around £500, but ideally need two to get even coverage. Has anyone had experience with the Packman snow machines? Although you don't have to worry about a slippy surface, does it look a bit rubbish if the small bits of paper snow fall in just one line? I also came across http://www.snowboy.co.uk/SNOWboy_Stage_Whi..._snoweffect.php online. Anyone had any experience with these? Can't seem to find anyone that hires them. Any advice much appreciated. Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the kid Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Personally I would not use a machine but hire / make a drop box, and go to Snow Business for the snow. Even a call to them should help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Well, this is another of those things we've covered several times here on the BR. The cheapest (and most effective) and by FAR the quietest option is to build a snow-bag - two fly-bars with a short canvas between the two, with holes cut in the cloth allowing the paper snow to fall uniformly across the stage when one bar is raised/lowered. Have a search here for details. The alternative is a motorised version - I know Stage LX have them as I've used them before but are more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LXbydesign Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Snow Machine These are the ones used on Billy Elliot and many others. More expensive of course but gives a fantastic effect. Used them on the X amount of times ive done The Snow Queen!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Yup - they look pretty much the same as those SLX have on hire - rotating drum with holes in drops paper/poly snow in a nice even manner. You'd need a few to cover a wide stage, but still a good effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the kid Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 IIR they are 1m sections. Our local firm has some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smyles Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 I used some of these machines on a show a couple of months ago. We hired from Viking Stage Lighting. They do fall in a straight line which is why they suggest you use several on different bars behnd each other. The drums don't actually rotate, there are full length rotating brushes inside which pushes the paper/plastic out the holes. One thing to note is you can't run them out a dimmer and they don't have DMX built in. The output is varied by varying the size of the holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 The SLX versions are DMX as I recall, though I wouldn't swear to it.However, you don't need multiple lines of these - a single line acorss the stage is fine - probably best upstage, side lit, and it'll look fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LXbydesign Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Yes, they are. No, thats right. Yes, yes , yes and it does look fine!! hehe :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partyadz Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 So is the general opinion to go for paper based falling rather than foam?Snow Business suggested this, at around £300 for the week: http://shop.snowbusiness.com/theatrepro-hire-p-27.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyromonkey Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 We have XL Swirl Fans in our hire stock. which we use for paper snow drops.They plug in to a dimmer so you can control the rate of the flow. They hold about 5kg and give a 360 degree effect.We also have lots of snow in stock. Google for more info! DanPyrojunkies Ltd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridGirl Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 So is the general opinion to go for paper based falling rather than foam? Provided you have an opportunity to sweep it up, yes. Cheaper, because you can re-use it (you may have to sift the crud out of it though - I always seem to end up with bobby pins in my snow sweepings!) and will cause fewer problems with slippage when it lands on the stage. We actually use potato flakes for small quantities of snow - bung it on a flat board and put a small fan on the board and you get beautifully realistic snow. It's really only good for small areas though - I wouldn't recommend it for a larger effect! The only thing with the potato flakes is that you have to make sure you sweep or vacuum REALLY well before you mop, otherwise you end up with mashed potato on your stage....(I only made that mistake once...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Soft foam used as snow leaves a wet slippery mess, so really needs a disposible carpet to absorb the effect. Flakes of plastic, paper, potato etc need sweeping up after use, may or may not be reusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Sieving snow and glitter are my personal retaliation method with errant members of the stage crew. "Can't we just buy some fresh?" No, sorry. Very childish, but it makes me feel lots better seeing somebody sitting there doing this for an hour or so. Had two snow boys last year, and like the Antari, they were damn loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitlane Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 These may be worth a look. Thomann confetti machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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