3guk Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I know there were a few discussions on here about the Plasma Lamp that Robe were demoing to a few people at last years PLASA. Looks like they are getting ready to release a product based around this technology and boy do the specs look good on paper. Full News Story at : http://www.ukslc.org/news/lighting_news/ro...sound_2009.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokm Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 22,000 & 10,000 of flux and O/P Lumens (respectively) from a 266w lamp isn't bad at all is it.. Haven't looked on the CP website, but surely that must beat the new alpha 300s? One things got me a bit concerned & puzzled..The Robin 3 Plasma Spot also offers a 20 - 100% dimming capabilitySurely they're not electronically dimming them? :D (Apologies if this isn't actually possible.. I've not looked into LiFi/Plasma lamps at all!) I'll be interested to see what the reasoning behind not having 0-100% dimming is, hopefully they'll be a bit of a hidden surprise thats not mentioned in the press release.. Like 0-19% outputs so little amount of light, its close enough to being b/o? But still.. why not just stick a mechanical dimmer in, unless there just wasn't any room in the head to fit a dimmer module. Seems like its the time of year when everyone's bringing out new 'toys'. VL have the VLX, Martin have they're branded version of the JBLED A7/Mac301, Robe have these. Seems like everyones just following the same trends (LED heads, ML Beamlights & occasionally digital heads), just in different order! T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csg Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 I should imagine the 20 - 100% dimming refers to the range of electronic dimming on the lamp for applications that dont require full power. Im sure there is a more conventional dimmer in the unit as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonGildebrand Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Anyone know which features the plasma fixture will have? On Robes site they only say thats its a plasma lamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokm Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Anyone know which features the plasma fixture will have?Yes thankyou, I do <_<... Try looking at the press release thats linked to by the OP and all will be revealed! T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonGildebrand Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 In that text it doesnt say anything about zoom, colors, gobos or things like that, just that it has a 20-100% dimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokm Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 In that text it doesn't say anything about zoom, colors, gobos or things like that, just that it has a 20-100% dimmer.So? The Robin 3 Plasma Spot comes complete with an extreme light output of 18,000 Lumens, colour rendering index (94), a flat and even light beam (1 : 1) and a lifespan of 10,000 hours....*snip* a semi-hot re-strike facility of less than a 20th of a second for the full lamp brightness to be restored after shutting off.... *snip* There is an exceptional optical efficiency of 54% and a lamp luminous flux of 22,000 Lumens, giving the fixture an incredible output of 10,000 Lumens – never previously achieved from a 266W light source...At this stage, who cares about things like colour/gobo/zoom. I'm sure it'll do atleast the standard box of tricks.. Information about the fixture's features such as the stuff above is much more important a selling point than exacting details of how many colours it does. These days, where nearly every fixture does the same trick, being able to say you have something that boasts that good CRI and lamp effecicenty is going to stand out a lot more than oh it has '2x colour wheels, a gobo wheel, etc etc'. Just my view.. but that's why I directed you to the link above. I assumed you wanted useful/interesting details, not the standard schoolboy type stuff <_<. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musht Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 This is where it really is launched with 20-100% dimming and things like pan and tilt , colour change and optics are on the TBA list........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonGildebrand Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Hmm, what do they mean by lightweight?? Under 20kg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonGildebrand Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Aha, found a little more about the ROBIN series on Robe:s site. http://www.robe.cz/download.aspx?file=705b...bf-9e5cbc4a44ba There you can read about all the features the new plasma spot offers. A concurrent post has been automatically merged from this point on. Does plasma lamps need a heavy ballast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwezenberg Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I will be watching it tommorow, cause its beeing introduced at prolight and sound in frankfurt. Ill keep you guys in touch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musht Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Does plasma lamps need a heavy ballast? Plasma is microwave excited so its not a ballast but a microwave source, this leads on the question of how long the microwave source actually lasts... 10K hours may be lifespan on microwave source and plasma capsule. http://www.ceravision.com/technology.php oops wrong plasma lamp http://www.lifi.com/ data sheet dosent give weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadhippy Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 but a microwave source,Brilliant,not only will it light the show,but also cook dinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonGildebrand Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Yeah, I was looking for the weight too. Would be very interesting to se the weight of the plasma head. Maybe will be around 20kg when there is no ballast? That would be great. A small head with functions and light output like a big head and still a low number on the weight tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerousMark Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Yeah, I was looking for the weight too. Would be very interesting to se the weight of the plasma head. Maybe will be around 20kg when there is no ballast? That would be great. A small head with functions and light output like a big head and still a low number on the weight tag. Probably less than that unless the majority of it is solid metal heatsink - the measurements suggest something with a volume of only about 1.5 litres. Not quite the "ultra small" source the blurb suggested (only in relation to traditional high-power light rigs I'd say - you're not going to be putting them in a desk lamp any time soon) but definitely reduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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