JDP Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Hi Guys, Sorry, maybe this should of gone into Lighting or Power forums? Anyway, I am looking to buy some 19" patch panels for power. I specifically looking for the Weiland type or other similar connector, although preferably NOT IEC. Its basically to sit on the back of a 19" rack for a dimmer patch. I am looking for something a bit off the shelf, rather than something custom built. Does anyone know of anything like this? Many Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyP1955 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 You could DIY using a standard punched panel and Neutrik PowerCon connectors. Although it might be best to use a rack mount chassis so that the connections are all enclosed for safety. Here's something similar as an example: http://www.padrick.net/LiveSound/BarDistro/BarDistro.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Remember Powercon connectors are not rated to be connected or disconnected under load. A concurrent post has been automatically merged from this point on. Edit: Holy crap, that distro is a widowmaker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryson Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Am I being dim? It just looks like a set of chassis mounted y-splits, unless I've missed something...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhuson Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 You're not being dim at all Bryson, that's exactly what it is though I can't quite get my head round what the guy who built it was trying to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRisdale Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I noticed at PLASA that Highlight (Showtec) now do various wieland panels like this and this for example... Gareth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Don't mind me... I saw the earth linkage between them all, and read that as all the sockets had their live and neutral linked... :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 Hi All, Thanks very much for the responses :) The Powecon is an interesting idea, as they are small. BUT at the same time very expensive. The Showtec ones look the best for what we need to do. However, the problem is that they are on Harting. No problem in themselves, we can snip them off! But of course, the cost of those down the line on something we don't want isn't going to make it that cost effective. Its a shame Showtec don't make hard wired versions.... Most of the people I know wouldn't but Dimmers with hartings on for the very reason that they would hard wire to such a panel... However, I guess its good if you want to make these modular and changeable, which we don't.... So, anyone seen anything else, perhaps a bit like the Showtecs in hard wired. We would be prepared to do ex-rental if anyone is ripping any out...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyP1955 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Don't mind me... I saw the earth linkage between them all, and read that as all the sockets had their live and neutral linked... :) That would be a circuit breaker tester ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 All lives to all lives, all neutrals to all neutrals... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmoffat Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Its all fine, as long as you watch you 20a limit on the powercon. I've not come across the Weiland connector before, any specific reason for specifying that?There are always things like http://www.aitdirect.co.uk/index.php?view=...amp;product=pduBut it doesn't seem to say whether its 19". That was jsut a quick 2min search through google. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I've not come across the Weiland connector before, any specific reason for specifying that?They are the patch connector used on Avo racks, which we all know are the only racks worth using anywhere, ever. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmoffat Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 They are the patch connector used on Avo racks ah, ok, I got you now. Why would you prefer to use them over using IEC. I have had far fewer problems with IEC, than I have with avo art rack patch pannels, and sometimes the conenctions can be slightly flimsy (Although that may have had something to do with other people repatching 6 times a day for a month - yes its called the fringe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 Its all fine, as long as you watch you 20a limit on the powercon. I've not come across the Weiland connector before, any specific reason for specifying that?There are always things like http://www.aitdirect.co.uk/index.php?view=...amp;product=pduBut it doesn't seem to say whether its 19". That was jsut a quick 2min search through google. Dave I don't want the 13A strips. Its a patch panel, not a distro... Weiland is a pretty standard connector for this industry. Specifying it means that I can use patch leads from other dimmers, without having to have specific sets... With all due respect, you don't really seem to be sure of what your talking about. Art 2000 patches are NOT flimsy, the are the most rugged we have seen for a long time, and beat the much hated American patch versions. When used properly Avo Racks are fine, and you can repatch them as many times a day as you want for as many days a week as you like, they will be fine. I suspect its down to the 'operator'. Art 2000 racks do literally the biggest of tours and events, and when used be experience professionals theres no problems, so it doesn't surprise me you have problems with something with Fringe, which is basically the opposite in terms of crewing. They are the patch connector used on Avo racks, which we all know are the only racks worth using anywhere, ever. dry.gif Andrew, have I missed something? Why the sarcastic wink, your statement is very true :) Never seen a flightcase with 20 Beta Packs or Anytronics dimmers running a large show.....always Avolites or ETC Sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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