Harvey_51 Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Hi, I went to a Halloween Event the other night and they had hundreds of pars lighting the site (64's 56's and Birdies) I noticed that these looked liked normal pars but where out in the pouring rain :unsure: (it was raining very hard). however they did have 16A plugs. Would these have been IP rated pars or are Pars generally ok in the rain? Thanks Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick LX Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Outdoor parcans do exist, so they may well have been outdoor pars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey_51 Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Hi, Yes I know there are IP rated pars cans do exist. I have used them before. what I am saying is these looked like normal indoor pars but they were out in the pouring rain. Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhuson Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Whilst not necessarily 'good practice' the reality is that a PAR64 generates enough heat whilst at full to evaporate any rain before enough builds up to get into the electrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey_51 Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yer, Par 64 would evaporate the water. However I dont think the birdies or the 56's would. Also All the lighting is supplied and installed by a Lighting Company that specilise in event lighting. Worrying ** laughs out loud **. I just thought there may be some waterproof par that look like normal ones. or a water proof lamp holder or something like that. Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmxtothemax Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Hi, I went to a Halloween Event the other night and they had hundreds of pars lighting the site (64's 56's and Birdies) I noticed that these looked liked normal pars but where out in the pouring rain ;) (it was raining very hard). however they did have 16A plugs. Would these have been IP rated pars or are Pars generally ok in the rain? Thanks Jordan you will probably find that although they worked in the rain, its bad practice to say the least! no waterfroof par fittings dont look like normal pars, but dont forget freshwater is not a good conducter of electricity, and the heat probably evaporated much of the rain.but its a dodgy practice to say the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey_51 Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Hi, Thanks for all the replies. I am going again tonight so I will have a closer look. but it looks like they are normal pars. I am surprised they dont have any problems. Thanks Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 The Minack theatre on the Cornish cliffs use standard lanterns throughout. There are issues, but they've been doing this for years in a very exposed location. Far more problems with ADB PCs and fresnels than PARs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamharman Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 The Minack theatre on the Cornish cliffs use standard lanterns throughout. There are issues, but they've been doing this for years in a very exposed location. Far more problems with ADB PCs and fresnels than PARs! I'm quite surprised at that. They advertise that they only cancel one or two shows a year in really extreme weather, so the kit really does take a hammering from the weather.Must go see a show there sometime, it's just the thought of getting there and back that puts me off. Same county, but I'm a couple of miles from one end of it, they're a couple of miles from the other end, and Cornwall is surprisingly long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikelx Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I too went to Minack earlier this year and was very suprised to see ordinary lanterns in use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 It is really quite exciting in a thunder storm. One of the things to document is which channels are on which RCD, you will need to know this, and possibly in a hurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamtastic3 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 The rain gets evaporated on par 64's very quickly. You can cook a Sunday breakfast with a parcan - just ask Big Clive ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben_Uk Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yea theres very very little to go wrong or short out in a par can, I would say the plugs are more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey_51 Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Hi, Had another Look tonight they are defiantly normal pars. I would not have thought they would hve used normal pars as it is done by a pro compay and the weather has been very bad over the last few days. Yer they were 16A plugs Thanks for the replies Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart91 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 The rain gets evaporated on par 64's very quickly. What happens, then, when the lamp is off? If they get thoroughly drenched overnight (with no heat to evaporate anything) that could cause problems when they're next turned on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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