The Boogie Man Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Hi Troops, I'm about to upgrade the connectors on the rear of my cabs from to quarter inch jack 2.5mm individual cables to some form of multicore with a fan out. I've looked at the vdc catalogue. At the socapex cables with socapex to eight nl4fc fans.I've also seen a couple of harting cables with fans to 15amp plugs on ebay that I thought might be good with the plug sockets changed to speakons. Are they both good ways to do it or is there another way? CheersBaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 How many ways do you need? If 4 circuits per side is enough, might an NL8 to four NL2 / NL4 connectors be OK? If four cables won't fit in the NL8 too easily, how about a small box with an NL8 chassis connector, then 4 cable glands and the cables to your cabs? Socapex and Hartings are good, rugged connectors, but are relatively expensive? At least with Speakons, the connector is designed for loudspeaker use! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boogie Man Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 Hi Simon, I need at least six circuits per side with another two cabs per side to be added soon.I gather then that socapex and harting are primarily for power, yes?The vdc site shows a socapex to speakon 4 pole connertors.http://www.vdctrading.com/products.asp?Sub...amp;Page=9#p264 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Yes, both Hartings and Socapex (19 pin) are generally used for dimmed power. There's often a sharp intake of breath when loudspeaker use is mentioned, but when used for audio, outputs are on male pins, and it would be quite hard to actually confuse the two uses. VDC will make whatever you ask for, so if it's not in the catalogue, don't worry! Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boogie Man Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 Cheers Simom, I'll look into the harting stuff I saw earlier, that had six plugs on the fans so that should be more than enough for six cabs as there will be six earths I can use for 3 other cabs.baz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peternewman Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Not quite. Harting has sixteen pins and the chassis, rather than the 18/19 of soca. Although it would still give enough for eight speakers. If you use existing cable, make sure the earths haven't been grouped in the extensions, they shouldn't have been, only in the breakin/outs, but its worth checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boogie Man Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 Ah, yes I hadn't thought of that, a mulitple earth = less wires. Actually eight will be plenty, but it's good to know thatcould be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Beech Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Hi Baz, OT, but I'm interested to know what this is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boogie Man Posted February 17, 2008 Author Share Posted February 17, 2008 Hi Rob, I'm just looking into a few upgrades to all my kit. Along with moving to pro spec mains distro I was looking into changing the 6 per side 20mtr speakon to quater inch jack speaker leads to a single multicore and fan ends. baz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Might you consider upgrading the speaker connector plates to Speakon as well? - presuming that's the end that presently has jack sockets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boogie Man Posted February 17, 2008 Author Share Posted February 17, 2008 Hi Simon, yes they're being upgraded. It was whilst I was thinking 'bout that, that I thought I might as well switch to a multicore with speakons on each end. ( or 16mp ceeforms on the back of the cabs for complete overkill :P ) baz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljoshua Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 If you're upgrading the speaker plates then how about buying pannel mount connectors both speakon and multicore and building the breakout box into the bottom cab on each stack. For the Other end how about building the Multicore Connector into the amp rack. Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 A couple of runs of 8core with NL8 speakons sounds like the closest to a "standard" way of doing this that you'll find. Have breakouts to 3x NL4 (wired as 2) built into the cabs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boogie Man Posted February 17, 2008 Author Share Posted February 17, 2008 Hi Josh, I like the thinking, it's the sort of idea I like coming up with. The only down side to that is that whilst the stack is, well a stack, It's modular so the cabs can be run individually. Ditto the amp rack. The amps are all in seperate skbs so they can be used as required. Doing that would mean always having to take a particulr cab or amp into the gig. And sods law would mean if one was going to die. Baz HI Bruce, I'll check in case I'm wrong, but 3x nl4 to feed 6 cabs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 HI Bruce, I'll check in case I'm wrong, but 3x nl4 to feed 6 cabs? I suggested running a couple of these.... It also means you don't need to lug around so many heavy cables if you're doing a smaller gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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