Goran Mitic Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 I found this accident on the other forum.Here is linkhttp://www.emorywheel.com/detail.php?n=24543 I am not sure, but I think this is original roofhttp://www.beezgetz.com/original_roof.jpg(not for that event) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan v Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Crikey. Interesting report. I'm sure all our thoughts are with those students who were left 'feeling uncertain', and especially with the one who didn't get any pizza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImagineerTom Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Even I can see that they've chosen about the most inherantly un-stable design you could possibly have for that roof - it would only take 1 fixing pin to fail and the whole structure would collapse. You can also see in the accident picture that there's a LOT more lighting rigged to the roof than in the other picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 I was going to comment on the apparently inappropriate equipment, but remembered the "no speculation" clause. However, a close look at the uprights is worthwhile.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ike Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Edit: Ironic rant removed Incidentally I was discussing that style of upright with an American rigger just the other day as they're apparently used quite frequently over there, there's even one company marketing them to the entertainment industry for that very purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 I was discussing that style of upright.... The one that the PSA stated was not suitable for outdoor use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ike Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Essentially yes. The company marketing them (who annoyingly don't seem to have any web presence) do specify lots of safety precautions and at least for now seem to have satisfied OSHA. The bases consist of four tubes at right angles with adjustable feet rather than the two parallel tubes at the front and smaller ones at the rear which seem to be more common in the construction industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Am I the only one who, while reading that report, kept thinking of "On The Hour" and "The Day Today"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran Mitic Posted October 26, 2007 Author Share Posted October 26, 2007 I found another site with same accident. http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index....=rss_topstories again, the main issue is not structure failure... @ Gareth: I don't understand Day ant Time thing (is it a joke?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinE Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Is the American website reporting the roof accident or the Pizza shortage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatman Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 ... @ Gareth: I don't understand Day ant Time thing (is it a joke?) An excellent BBC comedy series. See here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 @ Gareth: I don't understand Day ant Time thing (is it a joke?)On The Hour. The Day Today. Any news report that goes straight from talking about a potentially fatal roof collapse to discussing the trauma of not getting a free slice of pizza simply conjures up images of a piece to camera by Peter O'Hanrahahanrahan or Ted Maul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran Mitic Posted October 26, 2007 Author Share Posted October 26, 2007 Hey Gareth, Boatman and rest, hello! ok, I was way off. Thanks guys. Yes, it is surreal. The structure failure does not impact 'common people' like impacts roadies. But I figure, if they are not talking about failure, than we should (well, you guys did) I got hold of another photo, (small)http://www.11alive.com/assetpool/images/07...025a%5B1%5D.jpg It seems, little load, triangle truss, too long span between support, overpressure = weakest point middle break (plus no anchorage, and genie/lift for outside ground support) edit: another link, more pictures:http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.a...mp;provider=top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyld Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 I can't help feeling that using the words "structure" and "structural" regarding that flimsy thing in the picture might be putting a heavier burden on those two words than they might be reasonably expected to bear. ( Apologies to "Yes, Minister" for paraphrasing) As for the Genie-esque stands being commonly used in that manner.....? I wouldn't put that deathdtrap up INDOORS. Even a couple of 5 ton ratchet straps to triangulate the gables could have provided a bit more security. The most worrying thing about the report was that is seemed to suggest that this kind of think happened every other week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 The most worrying thing about the report was that is seemed to suggest that this kind of think happened every other week. Looking at the Live Audio Board, it almost does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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