soundiesam Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 TBH if you arnt gonna have it out that often steel deck is gonna cost you a bomb to buy and it would just be easier for you to get one os these simple staging systems sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Jut to put this into perspective - we arrived at our venue last night to find the scaffolders had removed their stuff from the side of the building and left it in a really daft place. 5 of us took an hour to move a mound of it. I don't want to do that again, ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundiesam Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Jut to put this into perspective - we arrived at our venue last night to find the scaffolders had removed their stuff from the side of the building and left it in a really daft place. 5 of us took an hour to move a mound of it. I don't want to do that again, ever! this is a very very very good point unless u have crew who r built like Rugby Players.... dont think about it...... unless of course you wanna get built like a rugby player!!!sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bencouchtechie Posted October 20, 2007 Author Share Posted October 20, 2007 this is a very very very good point unless u have crew who r built like Rugby Players.... dont think about it...... unless of course you wanna get built like a rugby player!!!sam Who says im not a rugby player ** laughs out loud ** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr G Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Hi allI was interested to read all your thoughts on staging ideas as I have been considering something similar myself. At the moment I hire in a scaffolding system and am thinking of buying the same thing for myself It is a combination of "Lobo" height adjustable legs http://www.lobosystems.com/staging.htm (12) and some scaffold poles 4 x 16' & 12 x 4' on which are laid 6 x 8 x 4 sheets of ply this gives me a stage 16' x 12' and works a treat for small gigs with 2 or 3 bands and it can be as high as you like as the legs are adjustable The legs are connected to the 16' poles and the 4' poles are secured permanently to the sheets of ply with pipe type brackets if you are interested I can take some pictures for you and send them I will probably just get a scaffolding stage built to my spec as it will live in situ and be in use everyweekend at the venue and I will also incorporate a drum riser which you can do with the above system but I think you need 4 more legs! The system as it is at the moment costs about £1000 but it is bullet proof , easily transportable, very quick to assemble , very sturdy and the 4 x 16' could be 8 x 8' for transport You don't need to be either a rocket scientist or a scaffolder to put it together ! hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the kid Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Cue creaking of a rusty door. The question below goes with some things mentioned on here - In our forthcoming show we plan to have our metro deck (2mx1m) on 198cm legs. It has been suggested that we need to have the scaff structure (32 legs) inspected and given a ticket. Is this right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Cue creaking of a rusty door. The question below goes with some things mentioned on here - In our forthcoming show we plan to have our metro deck (2mx1m) on 198cm legs. It has been suggested that we need to have the scaff structure (32 legs) inspected and given a ticket. Is this right ?<Ynot pops a bit of oil on the hinges> Personally, I'd say no - for assembling pukka deck sections there's no way you would need an inspection or a ticket.Otherwise there would be some very rich decking inspectors out there...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the kid Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I have had a quick look on the net and found The Event Safety Guide (pdf) which is for "The guide tohealth, safety and welfare at pop concerts and other similar events." It does say "The guidance offers useful suggestions for many types of music event that take place at a variety ofvenues such as purpose-built arenas, sites not designed for public entertainment, open-air stadia,parks and greenfield sites. It is not, however, primarily intended to be applied to nightclubs anddiscotheques." I cannot find anything at the moment that is for smaller scale events, and I would not call a small 60 seat theatre a nightclub ordiscotheque. Addition if anyone knows of the legislation / where to find the rules would be much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 My own view would be that it isn't scaffolding, but legs that high will need bracing properly, which means more scaff, and I guess at some point, there will be more metal than deck, so ...... I've used metro deck this high as part of absolutely not ticketed constructions - such as tiered seating, and like most things, I probably went over the top ensuring stability. I was happy, the RA looked fine, so we used it with no problems at all. Take the usual precautions and then decide for yourself. If you decide that you can't make the decision, then it may get more complicated because if you're the most competent person, and you need more, then going outside may well add complications you don't want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the kid Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Follow up and plea for some assistance. Having spoken to several professionals about the issue, they have all said brace, railings and kick boards and job done. The H&S guy is saying we need a ticket of competency to construct said staging, this should be perhaps from the suppler / manufacture who shows us how to put it up. Does anyone have such a thing. Has anyone been asked to supply such a thing, as a resident tech, ***staff in a college***, freelance. PM's or posts much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Why do schools and colleges promote such mind numbingly hopeless people into these posts? The manufacturers can't do this without coming out. I do know companies who specialise is theatre and TV work such as this, but it's going to cost. The simplest way to placate these people would be for you to go on a construction industry training course, and become the 'competent person' who can sign off your own and other's work. This isn't needed, and is a qualification that's not really for 'us'. It will keep these idiots happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the kid Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 It ended up the Official H&S guy was happy with risk assessments, which have been done. We had a visit today from one H&S guy, who tried to wobble some bits, failed. LOOKED at it and was OK with it. He didn't even have a walk about on the deck and steps to see what they were like. So it turns out metrodeck is not as DANGEROUS as it seems. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth McAllister Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 ( I am presuming you know about the latest demountable structures HSE info?) Anyone got any links/further info for this comment? I was browsing this thread when this bit caught my eye. I then spent a fruitless 15mins on the HSE website, with no search results relating to staging returned when I searched for "demountable structures". :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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