mal421 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I'm lighting a well known comedian soon and the rider asks for a follow spot and a 4 colour wash of red,blue,magenta and pink . I will be using 106 Primary Red , 113 Magenta and 119 Dark Blue because I have those colours . There are so many shades of pink to choose from and my question is which shade would be best ? I'm thinking of using 128 Bright Pink . I've become a lampie by accident so I'm still learning and so far have never had to use pink so I cannot visualise it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Some Bloke Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 It's going to need to be a strong pink to mix with the other colours (face-light taken care of by the follow-spot) so I think your choice of 128 is a good start. However, it's not that far away from 113. How about 126 instead? Strictly speaking not pink (mauve) but as near as makes no difference and it will mix a lot better with the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody74 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I'm lighting a well known comedian soon and the rider asks for a follow spot and a 4 colour wash Does it specify front-light? These sound like backlight (especially if there is a followspot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Dependent on exactly what you're doing with those other colours, and what lanterns you're using them in, I think you might be going a bit too dark with them. They'd be OK as backlight colours in parcans or 2Ks, but probably a bit too saturated for top/front light - think about using some lighter colours for the light coming more from the front. Oh, and for pinks I'd go for 111 for a lighter option or 128 for a darker one. It's always best not to get too clever for lighting this kind of gig. Acts like this have been around for years, the tendency is for them to know what they like and like what they know (if you see what I mean!). If you try to get too clever with the colours (or, for that matter, microphone choice or other similar things) it can sometimes throw them and that's just going to make the day difficult. If they ask for a blue wash and a good-quality vocal mic, they're going to be far happier if they find themselves standing in a nice wash of 132/119 clutching an SM58 than if you try to get smart and go all 'weird' on them! Trust me on this, I made that mistake doing my first summer season many years ago! :** laughs out loud **: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mal421 Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 The rider just says a 4 colour wash of red , blue , magenta and pink . The gig is in a sport centre and there are no lx bars . All the lighting will be on 4 stands , 2 each sideof the stage . All the washes will be backlighting . The only front lighting will be the followspot . If the comedian doesn't work too far forward on the stage I may be able supplement the followspot with 103 or similar on a couple of fresnel aside . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niclights Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I second that re 111 for pink and 126 for magenta instead of 113. 128 is rather saturated and might be a bit much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhuson Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Maybe a bit OT but mmmmm, I love 126, especially when coupled with some 180! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzette Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 WHY GUESS?You do have the option to get in touch with the tour manager - if it is a well known comic then there will be a T.M. - and ask them what pink they want? Do they want light pink for face lighting, in which case 107 or 109 would suffice, or do they want dark pink for a backlight state, so maybe 128 or 328 (Follies Pink) Never be afraid to call the person who has sent you a rider to clarify any points - it is much more preferable as a Tour Manager to receive a call asking a few questions than to arrive in the venue and for things to be not as required and then have to spend time re-doing things. It is also frustrating as a technician if you've spent time rigging etc. to then have to change it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Some Bloke Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 TBH, what often happens when you call the Tour Manager is that they reply: "actually all we need is a warm wash - ignore the rider". :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 You'll often be pleasantly suprised at the difference between what the rider said and what the reality is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzette Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I agree with Brian's comment - the number of times I've spoken to a Tour Manager who has said "ignore the rider, it was written by the office and they don't have a clue. All we need is ......" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mal421 Posted October 12, 2006 Author Share Posted October 12, 2006 Firstly a belated thankyou to everybody for your help and advice . The show went well and all that as required in the end was blues and whites . So much for the rider !!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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