James Remo Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Same guy also has the TMB proplex units that have 4 isolated outs with a 5 and a 3 pin out per way for £150.https://m.facebook.com/groups/162257830635675?view=permalink&id=675061716021948&rt=11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revbobuk Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Here's a link to that Chroma-Q device on their website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 Thanks for the links and suggestions guys.The recent choices would not have it the bill as I want them all to be racked in the 19" rack out of the way. After much pondering I've decided to bite the bullet and gone for a couple of 3-pin 8-way splitters from Thomann. Mainly on the basis of budget and availability of suitable choice. It has also made the cost of the patch panels considerably cheaper as 3-pin sockets are nowhere near the price of Neutrik 5 pins. And before I get a backlash of DMX having to be 5-pin, I'll throw that back at the manufacturers who don't build stuff to support that (in the same budget area as the pukka 5-pin kit). I decided that as this is JUST for sending feeds out to the distro around stage and FoH and the far ends WILL all be 5-pin, then it was a sacrifice I'm prepared to make in the interests of getting the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 It has also made the cost of the patch panels considerably cheaper as 3-pin sockets are nowhere near the price of Neutrik 5 pins.......And before I get a backlash of DMX having to be 5-pin, I'll throw that back at the manufacturers who don't build stuff to support that (in the same budget area as the pukka 5-pin kit). But they can't build budget 5 pin kit, the 5 pin connectors are too expensive which would push up the cost. Cheap DMX gear will always be 3 pin - no matter what the standard says - for that exact reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 But they can't build budget 5 pin kit, the 5 pin connectors are too expensive which would push up the cost. Cheap DMX gear will always be 3 pin - no matter what the standard says - for that exact reason.Actually, I can't accept that statement on two counts... Plenty of budget splitters will have BOTH 3 and 5 pin outs, (my problem being that most of them max out at 4 channel, when I need 8). And whilst I agree (and have already said) that 5 is more exp than 3, for a large quantity buyer that difference should reduce significantly when buying in bulk - making the difference between 8 x 3 pin and 8 x 5 pin far less than it might be to Joe Tech. Maybe the majority of 5-pin boxes have a better build quality or use a more expensive choice of components all round...But there's no real reason that the lower end splitters can't be built for a similar price. For example, the boxes I have en route from Thomann is around £87. Even at the cheaper bulk prices on CPC, the difference between 5 pin Neutriks (£5.34) and 3-pin (£2.75) is just £2.59 per socket, or just under £21 all in for a set of 8. No doubt a manufacturer would get much better price breaks on those, but this just goes to demonstrate that there SHOULDN'T be that much of a price gap just because of the connectors.That fag-packet calculation would have made my budget 8-way splitter £107 tops, which I would have happily gone for as an alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Manufacturers I've worked with use a 4x build price estimate for the retail price.So your extra £21 of connectors (assuming they paid that) might put the retail price up by £84 - which would push the product into a completely different marketplace. I genuinely don't think manufacturers are being deliberately awkward using 3 pin. It's simply a case of what they can afford for the market price point they want to sell at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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