taylord Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Can anyone point me to literature on permitted noise levels of music of a day time/night time pls? Not noise at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the kid Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Have a google for " site:blue-room.org.uk noise level " you will see there is no "exact" rule, but rough guide. The best option is to talk to your local council/environmental health - They will have the answer for everything. IIR it depends on history, if there is no history at the location then its free reign within reason. IF there is history they will know what the limit is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Can anyone point me to literature on permitted noise levels of music of a day time/night time pls? Not noise at work. What's the activity / event and what is the timing and duration? If you have an event with a temporary event notice, noise levels and mitigation may well have been discussed as part of that. Most councils have some kind of guidance on it (search for "temporary event notice + noise level"). Most will also expect time limits (e.g. event finishes and no noise after 11 etc.). Noise is a statutory nuisance under the Environmental Protection Act 1990 and the council has a duty to investigate noise nuisance. There aren't really set values - it is down to what is judged as a nuisance (although sometimes values such as internal night time noise level based on World Heath Organisation figures might be quoted). However, some events may be given site perimeter or nearest noise sensitive property limits based on the old Noise Council's Code of Practice on Environmental Noise Control at Concerts. The advice is "defunct" but not really replaced.... In general, fixed values are more problematic to a council because it's something that has to be measured and "policed". If they determine that something is simply a nuisance (albeit backed up with a reading) it can be easier for them to enforce. If you have a venue, you may find you need noise control measures as part of getting / renewing your premises licence. Typical tips and guidnace on level can be found in publications like this from Wakefield Council. If you are planning a major event with possible significant noise levels / complaints, you may want to use the services of folk like Vanguardia who will 'negotiate' on your behalf as well as help keep levels in check during the event. Incidentally, requirements to observe noise at work legislation don't "disappear" just because it's a gig ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylord Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 Basically the local Sailing Club has a metal structure (boat shed) that they turn into a 'summer pavillion'. They've been hosting more events there than usual this year and the neighbours have complained about noise. Current licence says music off by 12am. Said Sailing club were just looking for some guidance etc on noise levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Basically the local Sailing Club has a metal structure (boat shed) that they turn into a 'summer pavillion'. They've been hosting more events there than usual this year and the neighbours have complained about noise. Current licence says music off by 12am. Said Sailing club were just looking for some guidance etc on noise levels. Ah. The club needs to talk to their council. The council may give a figure to keep under, or may ask for them to undertake one or more noise mitigation measures if there is something that can be effective in reducing noise level.However, the type of music, its spectrum and the presence of other noise (e.g. audience sing alongs, loud car noises) will vary the level of annoyance and therefore can make setting a noise limit difficult. Remember - the council determine whether it's a nuisance or not! Bringing noise inside, stopping direct sound from the building, reducing noise in the 11-12 period, improving club/neighbour relations etc. are all worth considering. Councils will terminate licences (eventually) if conditions relating to noise control are not followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylord Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 Thank you. I will pass the info on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImagineerTom Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 TBH - an actual numerical value for noise level is irrelevant; if the neighbours perceive the events being held as "too loud" or a nuisance then by definition they are a nuisance and ultimately the council will take enforcement action and eventually venue licenses will be revoked or loaded with so many restrictions as to be worthless. Actively engaging with the neighbours, listening to their concerns & taking obvious steps to address them, giving them a chairman/executive who they can shout at, asking them to help shape a limit on the operating hours, dealing with secondary issues like bad parking & litter, having a dedicated noise-complaint hotline they can call (rather than ringing the council) are just a few of the things you could be doing that will make the neighbours feel happier and stop them making formal complaints to people who can impose hard limits or shut you down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 TBH - an actual numerical value for noise level is irrelevant; if the neighbours perceive the events being held as "too loud" or a nuisance then by definition they are a nuisance and ultimately the council will take enforcement action and eventually venue licenses will be revoked or loaded with so many restrictions as to be worthless. Actively engaging with the neighbours, listening to their concerns & taking obvious steps to address them, giving them a chairman/executive who they can shout at, asking them to help shape a limit on the operating hours, dealing with secondary issues like bad parking & litter, having a dedicated noise-complaint hotline they can call (rather than ringing the council) are just a few of the things you could be doing that will make the neighbours feel happier and stop them making formal complaints to people who can impose hard limits or shut you down. That sounds like the voice of experience! ;-) I've had venues given a perimeter noise limit (in reality most likely chosen because the nearby road would most likely mask at that level) and others banned from having events in a conservatory section and a noise limiter placed inside the main part of a pub. However, it is the EHO who will determine the nuisance, prompted by and in reaction to complaints made. There will always be cases where complaints are made even when no real nuisance occurs, or it's reasonable for noise to take place (e.g. fireworks on 5/11 or 31/12) - so not every call is deemed indicative of a nuisance, and some nuisance may be accepted for the common good. Some complaints are malicious, or as one EHO colleague found out, the result of an older person's tinnitus. That one was only rumbled when the complainant let on he could hear the noise from the "offending factory" 24/7 (they shut at night) and when he was on holiday - in Spain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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