i_hate_fisicks Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Yeah. Possibly smaller than that in 2 dimensions. Its surprisingly shallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Trouble Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share Posted December 8, 2014 1418025071[/url]' post='512823']If they've been released yet, for iPad only mixing have a look at the SM Pro Audio uMix series. Nice iPad interface and build in router at a good price point for smaller channel counts. We pre-ordered one but gave up on waiting for the release (they were supposed to be shipping in Sept and we ordered an X32 Rack in Oct). X32 Rack is a capable iPad mixer if you're not bothered at all by physical faders. Will do scene change on MIDI as well, personally I don't enjoy mixing more than one iPad page on it (8 channels) but that's for live adjustment - if it's set and forget levels at the top of a show you should be fine Both UMix and X18 look promising. Had a wee look at the interface on the SM website, and the smallest one sells for £154! Both shortlisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneEng Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Hi everyone, I have decided to look for a digital desk- currently using a Yamaha MG 82 FX, but fancy trying something new- Prosonus 1602 , Mavkie DL series, or a QSC Touchlive. What do you guys think? I work in a duo, ie guitar plus 2 Vox and laptop.Will I benefit from an easy transition to digital, and what are the benefits/ disadvantages of doing ths? Cheers! If you can wait until Feb, the Behringer XR12 (which goes for $300.00 USD) has 4 XLR's, 8 1/4" inputs and 2 aux outs. It is supposedly using the same engine as the X32. If that is true, then the efx and general sound of the mixer is very nice indeed. It also has MIDI control. If I were doing more solo/duo stuff this is exactly what I would buy. In fact, I may buy one just for doing the small stuff I normally reserve for my Allen & Heath ZED 10Fx. It is simply just too convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradRWills Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 If they've been released yet, for iPad only mixing have a look at the SM Pro Audio uMix series. Nice iPad interface and build in router at a good price point for smaller channel counts. We pre-ordered one but gave up on waiting for the release (they were supposed to be shipping in Sept and we ordered an X32 Rack in Oct). X32 Rack is a capable iPad mixer if you're not bothered at all by physical faders. Will do scene change on MIDI as well, personally I don't enjoy mixing more than one iPad page on it (8 channels) but that's for live adjustment - if it's set and forget levels at the top of a show you should be fine Both UMix and X18 look promising. Had a wee look at the interface on the SM website, and the smallest one sells for £154! Both shortlisted. They do look good actually. The interface is a bit awkward compared to the DL1608, but that might just be because I'm used to the DL's app. The one thing they're missing, is a drum drop - The smallest one is too small, and the middle one is a bit pricy. If they could do one in the middle with say 8 Channels, 2 -3 returns, then I could put it in a case, and this would be a brilliant solution for me personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkPAman Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 If they could do one in the middle with say 8 Channels, 2 -3 returns, then I could put it in a case, and this would be a brilliant solution for me personally. Something a bit like this you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradRWills Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 That's interesting....I had read that as a 12 X XLR input model....feel a bit sheepish now! This might be an interesting future product...if they can get it to market! I'd prefer an app for it though :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam.spoons Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 That's interesting....I had read that as a 12 X XLR input model....feel a bit sheepish now! This might be an interesting future product...if they can get it to market! I'd prefer an app for it though :) uMix app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 uMix app Hmm, pretty unresponsive on a decent i5 PC, I have to say - hardly a great advert... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkPAman Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 uMix app It's not an app though is it. I think that was Brad's point. I can't be certain, but I think they've rearranged things a bit since the last time I looked at it. It look's very responsive for me. At the moment, I have a very fast internet connection...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam.spoons Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I tried it on my 2011 macbook pro and iPad, it works great on the MacBook but is very sluggish on the iPad (both on the same WiFi network). It's not unusable on the iPad but only just. The new Mackie Master Fader app is less responsive that the old, I haven't yet upgraded my desk and iPad2, I have MF3 on the iPad3 to try it out but will probably revert to MF2 for the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleah Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Don't forget we're all trying the uMix interface across an interweb connection. In reality, it would be a closed local wireless (it may have a cable option) connection, so will be as good as any LAN connected device :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam.spoons Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I think it will be fast on a dedicated network but I can't understand why, sat on the same sofa, the uMix app is fast on the MacBook and sluggish on the iPad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkPAman Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 They do (or did) recommend a particular browser for iPad, and another for Android IIRC. Edit - Now changed it seems: "For Mac and ipad, we recommend Safari, and Add to Home screen on first use for full screen experience. For PC and Android, we recommend Chrome." As it's only an online, simulated, demo at the moment, I'm not going to worry about it right now. And if Behringer get theirs to market at about the same time, then I may well never worry about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistermorton Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Processing power required to simply paint the app in the browser? The processor in an iPad isn't in the same league as that in a macbook, and if the app is using lots of scripting to access a lot of widgets in the page (which I'd guess it is) that will need some oomph. I'd also expect it relies on the scripting and drawing engine the browser is using to be quick, and some are quicker than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam.spoons Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I doubt it's that, my iPhone 5S is a smooth as my MacBook, and on 3G as well (sat on that very same sofa)http://www.blue-room.org.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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