bobwal Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 does any know of a moving light that is 6k in intensity? if not what is the largest moving light I can get in terms of intensity, this is for a shoot that is outdoors during daylight. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjones2000 Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 What do you want it to do? Aerial effects? General wash? Projection?What budget do you have?What power is available? Ideally we need more information before we can make any useful and informed suggestions! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmx512 Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Daylight will drown out any effect from the most powerfull moving light unless its in an outdoor stage situation where you can control some haze or smoke Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niclights Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Xenon lamp fixtures can give you that sort of power. Typically used as searchlight type effects. Contenders that spring to mind are A&O Falcon's or Syncrolite. HSL have the Falcon's, not sure about Syncro's - I'd guess at PRG. Really don't rate your chances against daylight though, even at the highest outputs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyro_gearloose Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 6k? Do you mean 6,000 lumens, because that isn't very much. A mac 500 puts out 9,000 lumens, and you won't even see that outside on a sunny day. One of these beasts should give you enough light :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobwal Posted June 16, 2013 Author Share Posted June 16, 2013 thanks for the help.just to explain what im trying to work out. I have camera shoot in daylight on a roof with a 20 foot runway, and we want to put two moving lights behind the runway and to cross each other in movement so as to flare the camera and also backlight the model to a degree. but it will be shot just after noon. the dp wanted a light that would give the same intensity as a 6k hmi but does not want to use a 6k as the lights will be in shot and have to look good. thanks again for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niclights Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Either of the options I linked to will give you the requested intensity, probably with a slightly higher colour temperature. As you presumably don't need any colour something like this in 7k or 8k might look the part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicktaylor Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 The DP should know what is required. That is why he is paid as a DP rather than someone like me as a cameraman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
son of lx dad Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 So you want a moving light that can do beams that can crack daylight, honestly you might be better off having a shoot out. I suggest the following: Clay Paky Alpha Beam 1500Clay Paky SharpyVari Light 3500 Wash The above are smaller lights ie between 2and 3 ft tall the sharpy a lot smaller. For these fixtures you could try PRG or Neg Earth or Panalux. While Panalux don't own all of these they could certainly sub them in for you at the right price... At the very much physically larger end of the spectrumA 7k Falcon Beam from HSL Ltd is very large but not really that bright for its sizeB52 or 7K Syncrolights are brighter in my opinion but I don't believe they are available on general hire in this country, usually coming from Germany. The 7k Biglite again is only available on the continent but is a good light. A Nova Beam might do it but its large for not much out but it can run off a 13amp plug. Panalux has these I think. If you have to get these onto a roof you might be better off with the smaller units above. Power wise the bigger 2 run off 32/3 each. Do you have a Lumen level you are after. All of these fixtures will have published levels on the company website. I think in day light you should consider a few smoke machines to help pickup the beams. And I mean smoke machines not hazers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_ld Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Depends what you mean by 'having to look good' but here is the Arri Max Mover:- http://www.arri.com/lighting/lighting_emea/motorized_products/arri_maxmover.html You can put most standard Arri HMIs onto it, all the way up to the 18kw Arrimax. May still look like an HMI in shot but depends how close your shot is and if it's in silhouette etc. They do look quite cool when all rigged up and can be used on a manual remote or via DMX (the DMX control is a bit unusual though!)Panalux and Arri Lighting Rental both stock them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roderick Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Box => outside. Rather than fighting the sun, why not use it.How about this: http://www.vari-lite.com/clientuploads/directory/downloads/vlm_spec.pdf Reflect the sun on the mirror to get the effect you want.No big unsightly units, less power needed! Of course, if it is an overcast day you're stuffed...But then you can roll out a couple of 18K HMI out of shot with a tight focus on the mirrors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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