JordanHills Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I recently bought a new lighting desk, But the problem is our beta packs are 8 pin DIN connections, And the lighting desk is 3 pin XLR. Is there such a connector as a 8pin DIN to 3 pin XLR.Or anyone other way I could go about resolving this?Thank You! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Best guess is that you have a DMX desk and an analogue dimmer and need to demux the DMX correctly and get the analogue outs from that onto a correctly wired din plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbuckley Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Your betapacks are analogue, needing a 0-10v control voltage, one per channel. Your desk is almost certainly outputting DMX512, a digital control signal. The issue is not one of connectors, but one of different types of signals. To bridge this gap you need not a fancy cable, but a device known as a demux. One very popular demux is this device from Thomann, available under many different names. This has outputs on D type connectors, so you need specialist cables to go from D type to DIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roderick Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Roger is right, you'll need more than a cable.Somebody didn't do their homework.... Also see here for the D to DIN cable & pinoutAnalogue cable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleah Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Roger is right, you'll need more than a cable.Somebody didn't do their homework.... Also see here for the D to DIN cable & pinoutAnalogue cable NOTE! :o :o That pin out is NOT for the Botex Demux linked to above! The Botex output is pretty well 1-24 + common on the first 25D then 25-48 + common on the scond etc etc(can't remember the actual pin numbers off hand - I think they are printed on the unit?), assuming it's the same unit I have in a cupboard somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_s Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 (can't remember the actual pin numbers off hand - I think they are printed on the unit?) It is indeed as you said, and they are indeed printed on the unit - I had to make up a load of DB25->Soca adaptors for one a few months ago. The very definition of hell, but that's a different story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleah Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 (can't remember the actual pin numbers off hand - I think they are printed on the unit?) It is indeed as you said, and they are indeed printed on the unit - I had to make up a load of DB25->Soca adaptors for one a few months ago. The very definition of hell, but that's a different story... It sounds it! Apart from only being able to use existing cable runs, I can't possibly think of why you would want to send 0-10v at almost no current down a stonking great soca cable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_s Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 possibly think of why you would want to send 0-10v at almost no current down a stonking great soca cable! Sorry, 37 pin Socapex, not the type used for power! Apparently a commonly-used connector 'back in the day' for analogue control. The real fun was that 37 pin Soca is 30 channels and a DB25 only 24... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyld Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Apparently a commonly-used connector 'back in the day' for analogue control. Oh, very much so. I forget that not everyone remembers large analogue touring controls systems with monstrous looms of 0-10v down multiple Socas (or worse) from a Celco or Avo QM. I stumbled across this the other day. When lighting desks were made partly out of real wood, something that continued on until the boring Pearl revamp when everything went grey and plasticky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Oh, very much so. I forget that not everyone remembers large analogue touring controls systems with monstrous looms of 0-10v down multiple Socas (or worse) from a Celco or Avo QM. I stumbled across this the other day. When lighting desks were made partly out of real wood, something that continued on until the boring Pearl revamp when everything went grey and plasticky. Totally OT now but the end panels on Avo desks are still made of wood, but painted grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulDF Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 The pinout for the cheap 72 channel demux units such as the Botex / Elation / Showtec is here http://www.blue-room.org.uk/index.php?showtopic=45058&view=findpost&p=372513 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 The OP came back, but didn't post, so perhaps we should wait for him now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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