nick Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 please tell me what you think??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 best for what situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 For my money the Elara is the best desk. I own one, I bought it myself and it does what I ask of it. If I'd had a bit more money to spend I might have bought something a bit bigger. But then I don't have to make a living directly from theatre. I do live events for fun, for money I do something else. I also quite like the look of the Strand 200 which, had it been around when I bought the Elara I might have bought instead. I also use a Frog which for the money is pretty good. For some situations the NJD will piss all over anything else on the market. No discussion. Whilst Nick might have phrased the question differently I don't think the question is inherently invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 Righty-ho ... irrelevance and other dross removed, thread made all warm and fluffy again, all parties hopefully happy, thread re-opened, seconds out, round two! :o Re. the point Brian made about the Strand 200 - yes, it gives the Elara a serious run for its money. Probably even more so in the very near future ... the R&D chaps at Strand's factory have redesigned some of the electronics and re-written some of the software to get rid of some of the oddities that the board previously exhibited. I had one of the first desks off the production line and it had a small number of rather irritating quirks inherent in it, but fair play to Strand, they listened to what I (and others) had to say about it and made some changes accordingly. I don't know whether the updates are on "general release" yet, or when they're going to start putting it into production consoles, but mine's going up to the factory on Friday to have all the new bits fitted, so when it comes back I'm expecting great things ... I'll let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryson Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 The only real way to compare these, I suppose, is on the basis on value for money. How much bang for your buck do you get? On that basis: I'll plump for the 500. (And indeed have, kind of) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lightnix Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 For sheer buskability I'd plump for a Pearl, although I will admit it is less than ideal for Theatre. I really like the graphics tab and find it a great desk for "getting things going" quickly. My favourite of all time was the Mini Artisan and I'd love to get my paws on a Virtuoso DX. The use of good, old-fashioned memory numbers clicks perfectly with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickLee Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 Having said that, if you only need a Strand 200 - the Strand 500 is terrible value for money because you're not gonna make full use of it. And, as it happens, I know of a case where a school refitting their hall bought a Strand 500-series yet really could have bought a 200 series (or the then-equivalent, MX) and done much better - kids and equipment of that sensitivity don't mix, and, many crashes and undeleted programs later, the thing is almost unusable. So, in that case it wasn't value for money, and they could have bought a few more lanterns for the price difference. Though personally, I'd go for a 500 or an ETC Expression (or, indeed, an Express). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Need Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 -1- The 530 for theatre/stage productions.touring etc-2- The Hog for rock/roll where time is available for plotting-3- Pearl for more hands on - instant lighting-4- Elara for the smaller simpler shows where nothing too fancy is needed, plenty of hands of available still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 I'll plump for the 500. (And indeed have, kind of)And you're not alone. I visit many theatres throughout the UK in the course of my work, and almost all the ones who are buying new desks are going for Strand, purely because that's what most of the venues on the touring circuit have. In fact, I even know of at least one venue which has ditched a perfectly good ETC desk in favour of a Strand, mainly for just that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 I wish mine would. Stu(Well when the season starts again and I can go back as a cassie!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickLee Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 In fact, I even know of at least one venue which has ditched a perfectly good ETC desk in favour of a Strand, mainly for just that reason.I'd happily take it off their hands :o --N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryson Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 The use of good, old-fashioned memory numbers clicks perfectly with me. Am I being dim? What does that mean? LX Cue 4 shillings and sixpence? :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 A number of posts have been removed from this topic by various moderators due to being "off topic". Any queries should be directed to an administrator, via PM, and not posted onto the board. Oh yeah, and its got to be a 500 series for theatre, or Pearl for live....unless your gig is small enough to warrent a Fat Frog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 Agree with Pete! Strand 500 Series for any theatre workAvo Pearl 2004 for any live/arena/rock and roll work any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 How about a revised poll? As I'm not really close enough to that end of the business, others may have a better idea of nominees, so I'll leave that to them. Possible criteria could be:- Best nightclub controllerBest desk for school or "Village Hall" amdramBest desk for small/medium/large theatreBest R&R desk (small & large scale) Worst desk ever designed (My vote would go for the AVAB Tenor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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