gyro_gearloose Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Just a quick question. I'm in the process of re-wiring our installed cans cabling. We want to add a few more points around stage, and just to generally tidy it all up. One thing I'm not sure of is if the cabling needs to be run in a loop from the master station and back again, or if it can simply be run from the master station to each belt pack? It does say 'ring' above the XLRs on the master station, and there are two sockets per channel which for some reason are the same gender. So do I need to run a loop of cable, or can I just wire it all up as one or two runs from one channel on the master station? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 The term 'ring' is a bit of a misnomer; it most definitely doesn't need to be one. There is an advantage to wiring it as a ring (volts drop) but it'll work just fine as a set of branches or star or any other setup. The one golden rule is 'never connect the screen to anything, anywhere' ie keep the screen isolated from ground at all points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingwalker Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Which system are you using? Just be aware that if you are using a Tecpro PS711 supply you can only run up to 16 outstations whereas if you are using an MS721 you can run up to 32. You won't need to do a loop. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyro_gearloose Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 Thank you for the information. We've actually got a Webblex master station, not a Tecpro system. We used have a mix of Webblex, Tecpro, and ASL belt packs and outstations, though we've recently invested in a new set of Granite packs and headsets. One more question: Is it okay to run several sets of packs in a Y configuration? Our system is currently wired up with two packs by the followspots on one run, the FOH and control room packs on anothe run, and flies and stage on another. All of these runs meet in a junction box on stage, and just one cable connects them to the master station. I'm currently re-wiring stage and flies to add more outlets, but will I need to wire it all such that there is just one run from pack to pack with no Y-splits anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatman Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Any star, tree, branch etc. configuration will work as long as all outlets and the master station never connect the screen to earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 ...as all outlets and the master station never connect the screen to earth.And that includes the actual chassis connector and even the XLR leads. Never, ever, ever, be tempted to connect the shells to pin 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbuckley Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 ...never connect the screen to earth. Of course, it can all go wrong when the comms get bunged down the multicore, as some multicores common the screens on pin 1... #7 in a continuing series of things you really shouldn't send down a multicore but folks often do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyro_gearloose Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 Thanks for all of your help everyone. I just thought I'd ask as the diagram in the Tecpro suggests one way of laying out a cans system, but doesn't go into much detail about what you should and shouldn't re. Y-splits, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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