Tom Posted October 6, 2004 Author Share Posted October 6, 2004 Thank you all again. Did a test run on the mixer in rehearsals and it seems to work fine using a PFL aux. Have now also checked the venue specs and they all seem to have fairly decent desks so I don't think we will have any problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanG Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 XLR Y-SplitsCanford Audio New catalouge : pg164 Item codes: 38-251, 38-252, 38-255, 38-256<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I stand corrected. (But 12 quid+VAT!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmonk Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 Thats the cost of bieng lazy I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Some Bloke Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 (The benifit of the Y split as oposed to using direct outs etc is nothing that you do to ch1 will affact ch2) James<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry, James, but the whole point of a direct out is that anything you do to channel 1 doesn't affect channel 2 - hence the use of the word "direct". The splitting of a channel using the direct out in order to give 2 different EQs of the same input is very common - especially when 2 singers use the same mic at different points in the same show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 8, 2004 Author Share Posted October 8, 2004 Though strangely on the Soundcraft desk we have in rehearsals the Direct out seemed to be Post-Fade (or maybe just post the mute button, I forget) - which is why we are using a Pre-Fade AUX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanG Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 (The benifit of the Y split as oposed to using direct outs etc is nothing that you do to ch1 will affact ch2) James<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry, James, but the whole point of a direct out is that anything you do to channel 1 doesn't affect channel 2 - hence the use of the word "direct".<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not quite. Every direct out I've seen is post-gain/phase rev. Many are also post HPF. While this often is fine, it isn't always ideal for specific situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben... Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 XLR Y-SplitsCanford Audio New catalouge : pg164 Item codes: 38-251, 38-252, 38-255, 38-256<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I stand corrected. (But 12 quid+VAT!!)<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah yes, Canford... home of the 35p individually packaged washer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 (The benifit of the Y split as oposed to using direct outs etc is nothing that you do to ch1 will affact ch2) James<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry, James, but the whole point of a direct out is that anything you do to channel 1 doesn't affect channel 2 - hence the use of the word "direct". The splitting of a channel using the direct out in order to give 2 different EQs of the same input is very common - especially when 2 singers use the same mic at different points in the same show.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry JSB but that isn't always the case and therefore you can't assume it will be. Take for example this soundcraft desk, http://ukfdb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Scan0007.gif Where the Direct out is Post Gain, Post HPF, Post insert, POST EQ!!!, and switchable post fade & mute. Also any line direct out from a mic in is always going to be post gain To recap, the only way of doing it so ch1 doesn't affect ch2 is to use a Y split. Tom please note that your Prefade Aux could also be post EQ. Sorry, James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Some Bloke Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 Sorry JSB but ... Take for example this soundcraft desk, [image cut for reasons of space!] Where the Direct out is Post Gain, Post HPF, Post insert, POST EQ!!!, and switchable post fade & mute. Sorry, James<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Heavens to Betsy! I don't know how they can call it a direct out! In my book, "direct" means "direct from after the gain" so that you or someone else can use the same signal in a different way. Agreed, it's always after the gain, but why would you want it not to be? I'm gonna start a 'Campaign For Real Direct Outs'. 'Direct out' should mean direct! Call me old fashioned...! Sorry for misleading anyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbsy Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 ....probably down to the difference between something that is primarily a studio board and one designed for live use. In a studio situation you may well want to record each track individually but want to have full flexibility to set levels, add EQ, etc etc. Since the recording is your only concern, you don't have the problems that doing this in a live situation would give you. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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