ian hatch Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Hi allI have a few theatre shows coming up in the near future all with quite high balconies.So my idea is to hire in a couple extra RCF TT22a's to go with my existing TT22a/TT18 setup to cover the balcony area.Subs at side of stage, 22's sat straight on the subs to cover the stalls.The plan is to angle up the other set of 22's to cover the balcony, sat on subs/bracket/stands?Problem is, how to go about it., and are there any obvious problems. CheersIan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Is there an advance truss you could rig from? That would be the common approach. Or prosc booms? Or boxes that aren't being sold? Getting them up high is always better to even out the variance in the front-to-back coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian hatch Posted June 10, 2010 Author Share Posted June 10, 2010 Is there an advance truss you could rig from? That would be the common approach. Or prosc booms? Or boxes that aren't being sold? Getting them up high is always better to even out the variance in the front-to-back coverage.Hi ShezThanks for the reply.I'm a little bit green when it comes to theatres, not the normal venue for the band I normanly work for.How do you start to work out about flying the boxes and do the venues supply the kit to do it or is it up to me, if so where do I start? ianPS what are prosc booms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Pearce Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 A boom is a vertical scaff pipe used for holding lighting and sound equipment up. Prosc booms are the booms either side of the proscenium arch (stage opening in a traditional theatre). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolley1466 Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 It might be worth mentioning the theatre that you're going to be working, someone might know what flying facilities they have there etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 How do you start to work out about flying the boxes and do the venues supply the kit to do it or is it up to me, if so where do I start? I suspect the starting point might be to engage the services of an experienced rigger if it's not something you've done before. Generally the PA supplier would be expected to have the necessary brackets, clamps, safeties, gallows arms etc to do the job in hand. Every theatre is a little different though and can require a slightly different approach, both in terms of the practicalities and the degree of in-house expertise / equipment stocks. A conversation with the chief tech about how visiting companies normally do it will likely give you most of the answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pisquee Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Also, depending on the theatre, and its tech crew, a honest chat with them about what you would like to achieve, but also admitting your lack of knowledge/experience, and asking them if they could help you out, may work - better to be honest, than to make a mess of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian hatch Posted June 11, 2010 Author Share Posted June 11, 2010 Thanks guys for the relies.It looks like flying is the way to go, and not the proposed idea I had of the angled-up speaker on the subs.I'm going to get in touch with the venues and see what they say.If I have to supply the kit, what sort of things would I have to get or is it better to hire in? Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn Edwards Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Do the venues have a house system you could tie into? Generally the bands that play here use their own PA to cover the Stalls (seating at stage level) and circle and then supply a feed to our amps so we can cover the missing bits using our kit. This may be a possibility depending on the capabilities of the venues and the style of music etc that you require. HTH Glyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian hatch Posted June 14, 2010 Author Share Posted June 14, 2010 Do the venues have a house system you could tie into? Generally the bands that play here use their own PA to cover the Stalls (seating at stage level) and circle and then supply a feed to our amps so we can cover the missing bits using our kit. This may be a possibility depending on the capabilities of the venues and the style of music etc that you require. HTH GlynHi GlynTo me that sounds the perfect set up.I'm going to get in touch with the venues to see if they had any problems with this.Must admit I'm trying to steer away from the flying option if it's down to me to organise.Thanks for the reply.Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyP1955 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Do not fly it yourself - the risks are too great. If the venue does not have personnel on call, hire it out. (Of course this requires that the loudspeakers have fly hardware - if not, you'll need to hire boxes that do.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbotsmike Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Do not fly it yourself - the risks are too great. If the venue does not have personnel on call, hire it out. (Of course this requires that the loudspeakers have fly hardware - if not, you'll need to hire boxes that do.)Or suitable flying frames, could be cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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