Lightingloud Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Any opinions about the Dichroic Color Changer for Source 4 Ellipsoidals colour insert on Source 4. I am investigating this option for our theatre FOH http://www.seachangeronline.com/ "We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy is when men are afraid of the light."--Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danburns Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Not sure if these'll help, but there's some threads below that have mentioned Seachangers: Here and here. There might be a few more, but these were top of the search results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roderick Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Why would you want to limit your FOH colours to dichroic?It is highly unlikely that any designer would be too happy with saturated reds, blues, etc. in that position.If you are looking for a flexible choice of colours in that position, have a look at gel scrollers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody74 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 It is highly unlikely that any designer would be too happy with saturated reds, blues, etc. in that position. Which is why they are asking about the Sea Changer...check the link. -w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadhippy Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 If you are looking for a flexible choice of colours in that position, have a look at gel scrollersBasicly thats what a sea changer is,except it fits in the gate and use diclhoric filters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightingloud Posted August 22, 2009 Author Share Posted August 22, 2009 If you are looking for a flexible choice of colours in that position, have a look at gel scrollersBasicly thats what a sea changer is,except it fits in the gate and use diclhoric filters Don’t think you can compare the Seachanger to old gel scrollers? With infinite colour mapping and not to mention silent operation and the possibility of replacing banks of gelled fixtures with probably 16 Seachangers to cover FOH wash (excluding specials) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musht Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 With infinite colour mapping Infinite within finite bounds.... Sorry bit of an abused expression, infinite colour, infinite within gamut achievable by the far red, green and blue points of the colour system in use. Which may mean ,at times ,some colours are simply not achievable. So wider choice than scroller rather than infinite be better description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac500 Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 It would be good to see comparisions of source 4 with popular colours i.e. L205/L201/L119 etc and see if they can be matched by the sea changer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightingloud Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 It would be good to see comparisions of source 4 with popular colours i.e. L205/L201/L119 etc and see if they can be matched by the sea changer. A comparison between a Source 4 with the filters and one with the Seachanger whould be interesting. I Think designers and LX techs should stop thinking colour by a Lee or Rosco gel number because of the choices in colours that is now available. The gel number should only be a reference to a familiar colour you know. Theatre and specifically drama productions are making more and more use of intel and LED so colour design thinking is more about colour you trying to achieve. Now you have the Source 4 HPL quality lamp with the possibility of using one lamp for all your colour needs (maybe). Should you really not find the colour you want to achieve, you can always gel the lamp. You can even change your mind without having the trouble of changing the actual filter. For FOH (wash ) this could be the best thing since……. GEL. Is there anyone that has worked with the Seachangers that can shed light and colour on this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanhill Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Personally I would stick with old-fashioned colour, cut to fit the frame. Little chance of that system going wrong and almost infinitely changeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jay Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 It would be good to see comparisions of source 4 with popular colours i.e. L205/L201/L119 etc and see if they can be matched by the sea changer. Theatre and specifically drama productions are making more and more use of intel and LED so colour design thinking is more about colour you trying to achieve. I dont think your quite right there, quite the oposite I beieve, yes LED are now being used alot in scenic elements but I dont think I have seen LED used to actually light the stage or people. Set peices I can think of is the Wings on Sister Act, The OZ Logo on Wicked and house lighting. Hairspray, the colour kinetics on the back wall but not to light the show. A big factor is price, your going to hire X amounts of these accessories to cover your FOH to do what exactly? Most designers will choose the FOH to light people so things like L136, 202, 205 or whatever, dont think so, I have never ever seen LED's FOH so what would be your purpose of using these FOH since it was your example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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