paulears Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 my college have taken pat testing so seriously that it is now one persons job! it is the most dull and repetitive jobs anyone can ever get. it's also like the forth bridge - it never ends. I asked him if there was one things he'd come accross that fails more. he said IEC mains leads, and then mentioned he'd just cut the plug off mine and thrown it in the bin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscript Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 One example of something that doesn't get a full PAT as most people think of it is our par64s. These tend to get quite badly treated but we have found that a regular good visual inspection including checking the cable for bumps and dents is fine. I've found that PAR cans were one of our worst offenders. The black finish made earth continuity dubious, and all units now have a proper earth bolt, not just a rivet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ike Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 I understand that the finish can make it difficult to get low resistance between the tester and the shell but this does not affect the safety of the item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 I understand that the finish can make it difficult to get low resistance between the tester and the shell but this does not affect the safety of the item. If you took this to the extereme and has the whole thing plastic coated then it would fail the earth bond test because the tester couldn't make a good connection and yet be extremely safe if it developed a fault because you could never touch a live part. This is, of course, pretty much what a class 2 appliance is and demonstrates why the person doing the testing needs to know what they are doing (having been trained), as does this... I asked him if there was one things he'd come accross that fails more. he said IEC mains leads,... unless they are physically damaged there is little reason to fail an IEC lead. Sounds like he's testing to the wrong standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Testing a Selecon Pacific is interesting in that the only earthed metal part is buried inside the plastic lamphousing. The way forward is to clip a screwdriver into the tester and poke it through a hole in the base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Console Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 The way forward is to clip a screwdriver into the tester and poke it through a hole in the base.Pah! Sounds like I should have done that with a tracing table I was having problems with today.Sorry to drag this back up, it is the only recent PAT related topic, and I don't think this question needs a new topic.Has anybody been looking at the PATGuard software from Seaward? Or more to the point, can anybody get anything to scroll through a logical order, ie test 1,2,3,4,5.., and print in that order? My boss' new and fully paid one is driving us both up the wall compared to our old DOS version. We can't select the order it prints, but can change all the other settings. Handing something to a customer ordered 18,21,19,30.1,4,2,5,7..is not good. It is not an alphabetical sort either.Just thought I'd ask before consigning to file B1N!BTW I have just earnt enough money PAT testing, to cover the cost of PAT course, PAT Tester, Barcode reader, labels, only to blow front tyre on way home, sods law that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blame Jono Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Which courses can be done to 'qualify' you as a PAT tester? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyFitch Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 City and Guilds 2377 (PAT Testing) Inspection and Testing of Electrical Equipment 1 Day Course. Cost £150.00 from my local college Hope this helps Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modge Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 One example of something that doesn't get a full PAT as most people think of it is our par64s. These tend to get quite badly treated but we have found that a regular good visual inspection including checking the cable for bumps and dents is fine.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Our Par64's also take a battering but get PAT tested every year. This hasn't stopped a)Me getting a belt off one just recently b)some one else a while back getting same, though the one he was got with was a silver tomcat rather than a normal painted par64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Our Par64's also take a battering but get PAT tested every year. This hasn't stopped a)Me getting a belt off one just recently b)some one else a while back getting same, though the one he was got with was a silver tomcat rather than a normal painted par64 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In that case, an annual inspection is insufficient and your inspector is failing in his duty of care. The requirements of the CoP include a "Risk assessment" section (7.3 & 7.4) that can reduce the period between tests; however the test is only good for the day it was done, a bit like the MOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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