spliglet52 Posted March 26, 2008 Posted March 26, 2008 Alrite chaps, I'm after a pair of large diaphram condenser (or similar) microphones for use as overheads and general stereo applications. T bone make a SC300 for 25 quid or a SC400 for 40, both of which I;m considering but havn;t heard. I was wondering if anyone had any experence of either of these or could recommend any thing good in a similar price range. Chars, J
Sirch Sound Posted March 26, 2008 Posted March 26, 2008 Samson make a large diaphram mic in this sort of price range, as do behringer (suprisingly!) which both sound very good for the price. Im sure a thread has been brought up here recently about cheapo large diaphram mics. Have you done a search? Rich
mervaka Posted March 26, 2008 Posted March 26, 2008 I have the SC600, which I believe is the dual diaphragm version of the SC400. build quality is good for the price, but the same cant be said across the board, I have a drum mic set that's falling to bits only a few months in!. they sound great for the price though. I dont own any samson or behringer mics, so I can't compare.
paulears Posted March 26, 2008 Posted March 26, 2008 I have two 400s and 2 450s and am pretty impressed. I bought them to a big band show where the rider specified large diaphragm mics. They did the job pretty well - very clean and not sounding remotely like their price suggested.
gareth Posted March 26, 2008 Posted March 26, 2008 I did a tour a few years back which required a 'radio studio' type of setting - so four "big mics in rubber shock-mounts" on stands. They didn't have to be practical, just look nice - and it was finally decided that the cheapest way to achieve it was to buy four of Thomann's cheapest T-Bone mics of an appropriate design. Just for a giggle, during a lull in the tech, the sound guy decided to plug one of them in and do a side-by-side comparison with one of the theatre's very expensive (AKG, I think) mics of comparable form and function. The difference was barely perceptible ....
Chris Adam Posted March 26, 2008 Posted March 26, 2008 Yip, I agree with most of what has been said here. cheap large diaphram mics can sound almost as good as their expensive counterpart when used on a "point and shoot" sound system. It gets more noticeable if using them on a high quality system such as L'acoustics arcs or a decent line array as the system's clarity is just much better. Also, in a studio situation I'd avoid using cheap mics unless it's a home studio thing or for micing guitar cabs etc. Just in case you are looking for reviews, My standard "cheap" mic is the bottom of the range Rode (NT1A) which is only £100 worth of mic, but it's never failed me yet. It sometimes needs warming up a touch, but I've used these on brass, strings woodwind, drums, guitars, vocals, overheads and samba bands percussion. well worth the little bit extra. I'd give the samson, behringer and audix mics a good shot though as they can surprise even the best engineers.
trussmonkee Posted March 26, 2008 Posted March 26, 2008 I think there was a similar thread to this recentlybut it gives me the chance to say how useful the pairs of behringer c2s I have areregularly used live as drum over heads, snr bottoms, high hat, brass area mic, cello and fiddleand at 40 quid a pair great value also compared them to neuman km100 and although the lacked the character of they neuman the still had the claritycan't recomend them enough
Alec Posted March 26, 2008 Posted March 26, 2008 ... how useful the pairs of behringer c2s I have areregularly used live as drum over heads, ... and at 40 quid a pair great value ... can't recomend them enough Rick Buckler from The Jam used a pair of C2s as overheads when they were touring last year - cool, huh!
CRandall Posted March 27, 2008 Posted March 27, 2008 We have used the Studio Projects B1 sucessfully in several studio installations, I have also tried them on a piano for PA purposes. At £50, they are worth a look.
Rob_Beech Posted March 27, 2008 Posted March 27, 2008 I've got a pair of the 450's (non usb version of course) I've also got a bunch of em700's and em800's. Can't fault them at all. All fantastic value for money. Ooo and that cheap kick drum mic is more than useable.
mervaka Posted March 27, 2008 Posted March 27, 2008 if you mean the BD200, I have two and I cant say I'm a fan of them personally. it just about does the job, but it just sounds so thin. I'm planning on getting myself a beta 91 soon. sounds a whole lot better, and it doesnt need a stand! on rob's good word the other month, I also bought a pair of EM800s, I'm all with rob there, great mics for the money!
Rob_Beech Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Sorry, I was unaware of the BD200. I was referring to the BD300, I don't tend to use them a deal unless I'm running out, as I have a couple of D6. Rob
Simon Lewis Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 I have found this site to provide some very useful comparisons... by simply recording the same guitar through a variety of mics.It's pretty interesting ;-) To whet your appetite, they compare the following:AKG 414 TLIIAKG 414 B-ULSRed5 Audio RV8Red5 Audio RV10Neumann TLM 103Studio Projects B1Studio Projects B3Studio Projects C1Røde NT1000MXL 990MXL V67MXL 1006MXL 2001MXL 2003SE Electronics SE3600Audio-Technica AT4040Audio-Technica AT4047AKG C2000Audio-Technica AT4050AKG C3000Oktava MK319CAD M179SE Electronics Z3300Røde NT1-ARøde NT3Behringer B-1CAD E100MXL V69 Mogami EditionADK A51-TCRed5 Audio RV15AKG SolidTubeSE Electronics Z5600Røde NTK Enjoy! Simon
paulears Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 I read this bitAll tracks were recorded with a high-pass filter on the ELBERG at 90Hz. Seems odd - surely in a warts and all test, we're interested in everything. I've no issue with rolling of the LF, and for an acoustic guitar, it's a common trick, but doesn't it colour the test a little?
the kid Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 *creaking of coffin doors* Just wondering I am possibly getting the DC1000 set for a band thing next week. . . any thoughts on them ?
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