Strand Patt.223

[Russ83]

Hi Everyone,

 

Does anyone know if it is still possible to get hold of a suitable lens for the Patt.223?

I've checked on eBay and I can't find anything (for the 223 or the 743)

 

From the archive it shows it as:

Lens: 200mm diameter short focus Fresnel, recessed mounted

If I can't find a new lens what would you suggest as a replacement model?

 

Any suggestions gratefully received

Cheers

Russ

[LeeStoddart]

Can't help with a source for a replacement lens but I do see that there are still P223 available. I saw some 223 and 743 on Used Lighting last night while I was browsing for availability of Fresnels.

 

If you want to buy new instead then there is a wide range to choose from - personal recommendation CCT Starlette or Selecon Pacific.

[Brian]

Try RB Lighting in Teddington.

[paulears]

Jim Laws Lighting in sunny suffolk is the place for any kind of old Strand spares - Tel: (01502) 675264

[tokm]

Also give dAJb a PM. http://www.blue-room.org.uk/index.php?showuser=3127

 

He was recently selling some of these lanterns (223's & 743's) so might be worth giving him a shout in case he either has some of the things left, or has some spare lenses lying around in his gear store... As you do..

 

HTH,

 

Tom

[Russ83]

Thank you Lee, Brian, Paul and Tom for your info, that gives me a few leads to follow up and sounds hopeful.

 

If I have to get a new fixture does anyone have any grumbles/comments on the CCT Starlette Z0050 which looks to be very similar spec to the 223?

 

Thanks again

[LeeStoddart]

If I have to get a new fixture does anyone have any grumbles/comments on the CCT Starlette Z0050 which looks to be very similar spec to the 223?

 

If you want to buy new instead then there is a wide range to choose from - personal recommendation CCT Starlette or Selecon Pacific.

 

I think the CCT Starlette is an excellent 1K (or 1.2K) Fresnel - hence my personal recommendation :(

[gareth]

There's nothing fundamentally wrong with the Starlette - but if I was buying new 1k/1.2k fresnels at the moment I think I'd probably go for Robert Juliat if the budget permitted, or perhaps Strand Cantata or Selecon Rama.

[derykh]

Gooday

 

Strand Cadenza Fresnel Lens fit the Patt 223/743 and are far better than the original lens. You may be able to source some of these instead.

 

Deryk

[adamharman]

Usedlighting have just listed a load of second hand 743s on ebay for 30 quid each. May be cheaper than new lenses! And you get lots of other spares thrown in.

[Russ83]

Cheers again for your views and info.

 

Well spotted Adam, a couple of extra fixtures at that price would be even better. Especially when I already have a stock of spare lamps :biggrin:

[Neil Hampson]

If you ever do get around to replacing the Patt 223/743's bear in mind that no lantern (That I can think of) can match the beam angle of a Patt 743. The beasts can manage an 80Deg flood, which when working with a low trim height is sometimes a god-send. I believe the CCT can only manage 55Deg or similar.

One thing I would reccomend though is to have all of your P223's converted to Halogen, I have seem the conversion kits somewhere, but at the moment I can't think where.

[david.elsbury]

Bear in mind that no lantern (That I can think of) can match the beam angle of a Patt 743. The beasts can manage an 80Deg flood

Selecon do a 90 degree profile, and ETC have a pretty wide angle S4 lens tube now as well.

[Neil Hampson]

Selecon do a 90 degree profile, and ETC have a pretty wide angle S4 lens tube now as well.

 

Sorry to sound pedantic, but we were talking about fresnels in particular.

I've never actually used the 70 & 90 Deg S4's, I have always imagined that they would be quite poor focusing, especially for Gobos, as taking the 90deg example the edge of the beam could have 1 1/2 times the distance from the focal plane as the centre of the beam, or do the optics compensate for this?