P. Funk Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 just wondering what your opinions were. one guy old me 'radios are the future' but I like wired cans better. going to hire some for my school show, and a couple of people are disagreeing with me. so I just wondered if you had any opinions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ike Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Wireless ones are probably best in most situations. I do however have a habit of losing everything without a cable. EDIT: OK I'll be a bit more helpfull Reasons for saying wireless is best: 1.No tangled wires2.Ability to run and change lamp/fuse/turn without having to remember to take off or unplug headset3.No risk of breaking stuff when walking/running off with headset on4.No running cables for temporary use5.Less cables in permanent instalation, less conections on patch panels, less thigs to break Reasons against: 1.Got to remember to charge/replce batteries2.Stupid people lose them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweeks Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Hmm, Intruiging question. Personally, I'm all for wireless. That way, if you need to go for a piss/fag, you can get called back for free. You have a bloody cable behind you with on cans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterbassman Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 I've just bought my self a set of radios and Im never going bak to cans. the radios give you so much freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryson Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Do you mean just normal radios, or full duplex radio cans? They're quite different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P. Funk Posted January 8, 2004 Author Share Posted January 8, 2004 normal radios. I'm all for full duplex cans... just cant find em newhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P. Funk Posted January 8, 2004 Author Share Posted January 8, 2004 oops just realise di posted this in the wrong forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryson Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 In that case - I vote Cans. Can't beat the uninterrupted communication Post moved to Stage Management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 You need a poll option for "both". LX ops, sound ops, followspots, DSMs, etc. need wired cans - no need for mobility, so no need for the expense of purchasing radio cans for people who aren't going to move anywhere (or the bother of charging up all those packs every day). Flymen, crew, ASMs, etc. need to be mobile, so radio cans are a good idea for them. As Bryson has said, full-duplex radio cans are ideally the way forward. Failing that, then a set of Motorolas with headsets running into one of Mike Weaver's interface units, so that they link into your ring intercom (this isn't really full duplex, but it's almost as good ...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P. Funk Posted January 8, 2004 Author Share Posted January 8, 2004 how would you get the audio out of the cans and into the motorolas though? put it on VOX or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 how would you get the audio out of the cans and into the motorolas though?Like I said, with one of Mike Weaver Communications interfaces. Basically, they're a rackmount unit which take a feed from the ring intercom, and transmit it on one channel of the Motorolas. Any radios that are switched to this channel continually received the audio from the cans ring. Until, that is, someone on that channel keys up their radio, at which point the interface goes into receive mode, takes the transmission from that radio and puts it onto the cans ring (including all the radios that are not TXing). The only snag is that any radio that's transmitting temporarily goes 'deaf' until transmission stops - apart from that it's a great system. I know of many companies and touring shows who use this piece of kit very successfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robloxley Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 Wireless cans sound promising - especially when the newer DECT-based full duplex ones come down in price somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirdtap Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 Wired cans for now.Had quite a few problems with radios. Been to one venue where they didn't have any cans and we ran the show via phones and I don't think it was an internal phone either. I didn't have hold music to put on whilst I went off to help with scene changes either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P. Funk Posted January 9, 2004 Author Share Posted January 9, 2004 in the past I've found that normal radios are not too bad for crew communication, but they are rubbish for cueing / FOH jobs - especially where you are not totally isolated from the auditorium soundwise. as soon as there is any ambient noise, you cant make out anything anyone says through radios either. analog all the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuxlux Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 I agree with the both option. Cans for cues for static operators, and radios for people who float about. One advantage is cans don't induct in monitors, sound kit (yes, I know they shouldn't in theory) etc. Radios do work when people 'just pop out' somewhere.... Radios are VERY useful for getins/rigging though. Radios tend to be (for good reason) push to talk - saves embarrassing conversations which you didn't realise you'd broadcast over cans ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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