Moorhouses Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Hi All, Looking to upgrade our video system here in the venue. We're currently using an Orchestra2 ORC50 which does it job, but is a bit OTT with us only running 1/2 sources through it at any one time.I'm looking at a single 19u like a Kramer or Extron unit which will offer the following;Offer main output as well as preview output.Offer multiple HDMI inputs as well as various analogue (VGA, BNC if possible)Have the ability to 'fade' between sources as opposed to a 'snap' like my old Kramer unit.Have network features so we can control the unit via an iPad/laptop should we need.I'm looking at the Extron In1608 aswell as a Kramer VP-445 - however, Kramer haven't been too helpful with my questions, and with similar past experiences with them, I'm tempted to go elsewhere. The Extron looks great and extremely configurable, but is expensive and I wonder if it's again a bit OTT for what we need. Can anyone suggest any others that I can take a look at? Many thanks, -Moorhouses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lee Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 The new Analog Way stuff is miles better than the old stuff. Pulse 2 is ok. Quick Vu as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstewart Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 The Extron IN1608 has mirrored outputs not program/preview, so doesn't meet that requirement, and the VP-445 looks the same. Kramer's VP-772 has the program/preview out setup that you're after. Other products are also available.... Philip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empyfree Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I love the Analog way kit too, new stuff is very nice. By having the requirement for main/preview you're going to be looking at high end kit. None of the "basic" switcher scalers that I can think of have it. Another contender to throw into the mix is the Roland stuff: https://proav.roland.com/global/products/vr-50hd/ I know it's not racked, but it's very flexible. If you can live in a world without scalers the new Blackmagic ATEM TV studio thingummybob looks nice! Full multiviewer support and less than a grand! (Repeat - no scalers!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 If you can live in a world without scalers the new Blackmagic ATEM TV studio thingummybob looks nice! Full multiviewer support and less than a grand! (Repeat - no scalers!). I would not attempt to use the Atem as a laptop/pc switcher without having some sort of magic scaling box on the front end. We have one (of the older design) and some PC's just won't work with it even though they say they are set to the correct resolution/refresh rate. However you can probably get the TV Studio and a couple of updowncross converters for a lot less money than any competing device. Doesn't have any analog inputs though (VGA or composite) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Barco PDS902? Demo the Roland vr50 very thoroughly before you commit. I just deployed 10 racks with them in and was sorely disappointed with the audio side. Also there are some quirks that Roland seem unwilling to address at all- not too impressed with the service from them TBQH You could use the Datavideo DAC70 with the Atem to give you HDMI and VGA inputs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Fernand Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 If the current unit 'does' what you require could you not simply add Network/Tablet control using 'On Controls' or similar? Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javis Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 If you can live in a world without scalers the new Blackmagic ATEM TV studio thingummybob looks nice! Full multiviewer support and less than a grand! (Repeat - no scalers!). I would not attempt to use the Atem as a laptop/pc switcher without having some sort of magic scaling box on the front end. We have one (of the older design) and some PC's just won't work with it even though they say they are set to the correct resolution/refresh rate. However you can probably get the TV Studio and a couple of updowncross converters for a lot less money than any competing device. Doesn't have any analog inputs though (VGA or composite) Only HDMI and SDI inputs on the new Blackmagic units (they are great little bits of kit though, but yes no scalers all sadly ), so you would need a converter of some description. The Image Pro is still a firm favourite, can handle most things you throw at it and has still stores, and scaling etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveallenav Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 We bought a Kramer VP772 and couldn't use it for a year as the firmware was beta and buggy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Carver Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 We just bought the RGB Link CP 3072PRO - http://www.rgblink.com/en/products_detail.aspx?id=713 Havent had any hands on yet, but the guys were all over it at a trade show in Amsterdam last month, apparently it ticks all the right boxes! Will let you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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