Filming a show

[pyromonkey]

Is it ok to film a production of a Dance show? And to possibly produce copies?

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[J Pearce]

Is the dance show a licensed show?

If yes then you need to get a license to film it.

 

 

Are under 18s involved?

If yes then you need to get permission form parent/guardians to film them.

[paulears]

As you'll see from this thread recording shows

recording has problems.

 

If your dance show is a dance school style thing, then the simplest thing is to offer the video service to the person running it, well in advance. It is common for this to be a little fund raiser. The hassle then becomes their problem. I'd suggest you don't offer free shooting/editing and then a fixed price for the tapes, which they then mark up because they will buy a few, then run off copies for themselves. Personal experience!

 

What I do is set a modest production charge and a minimum number of tapes at a fixed price - guaranteed. Then once over this number, a larger price cut. They can still sell for the full price, so they make more ad everyone is happy. What then happens is that the no video/photo rule is applied very strictly during the show - obviously meaning more video sales.

 

The person running it, if they take legal advice, will have to run a positive permission system. This means that they need permission from EVERYONE, individually, allowing their kids to be shot (or should I say videoed?). A general letter saying things along the lines of "if you don't refuse, we will take this as permission..." does not work. The request from the organiser asking for the video will then absolve you from getting involved with permisions altogether.

 

The CRB checks required for schools, colleges and people working with vulnerable people (which could be physical and mentally handicaped too) wouldn't normally be required for the production staff as there is no direct contact with the kids apart from the odd yelling session when they do stupid things. Most people running dance type shows are only too awareof the problems.

 

At my venue we know only too well what can happen, and it isn't pleasant. At one dance show 3 years ago the follow spot people noticed a single bloke in the audience 'abusing himself' - I'm sure you can work out what he was doing? It turned out he just walked up and bought a ticket. No vetting system sorts this out. We called the doormen from our rather rough pub next door - big blokes with no necks and no hair and they threw him out. Rumour has it that the throw was over the side of the pier - we never found out for sure. Since then, this dance school operate a no parents backstage policy - with proper chaperones. Others don't.

 

 

Last bit is copyright issues. Make sure the organiser puts in writing to you that they will take care of this part - they always make up medleys, and edit extra chunks to pad dances out. This makes doing the paperwork a real pain - and very often, they don;t even know what the music actually is - keep clear. I'm not certain that legally you can totally absolve yourself from the responsibility, but at least if it is in writing it should at least show you were not to know if it didn't get done.

[bruce]

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At my venue we know only too well what can happen, and it isn't pleasant. At one dance show 3 years ago the follow spot people noticed a single bloke in the audience 'abusing himself' - I'm sure you can work out what he was doing?

 

I know of a similar complaint in a University IT lab - not at my institution, of course....probably. Some students complained that there was a guy in the back row looking at porn, and fiddling around in his pockets.

 

Security were called, and the guy interviewed. He admitted looking at porn, but denied any wrongdoings in the trouser department. When the security guys said thy had CCTV footage, he said that he had had "his hands in his pocket, and was looking for a floppy..."

 

Bruce.