Fleeting Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 Greetings,I recently visited a antiques shop ( my mum wanted to not me). Amongst the mahogany tables and assorted brick a brack was an early Strand Patt 23 fresnel. I know that is was going to happen but not as soon as this. I'm only 34 and the equipment I started working with is an antique. Does this mean that soon I'm going to have to put myself out to pasture? Fleeting...feeling very old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Need Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 Is it 25 years when an item can be called an antique. or am I getting this confused with cars??? Which if applied to the Vari-lite....... it would become an antique in 2006!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_s Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 I think I remember seeing an article last year possibly in Lighting 'n' Sound Int. about the fact that vari lite had donated their first two units to the Theatre Museum. So if they are not already antiques, they are certainly museum pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 early Strand Patt 23 fresnelSorry to state this, but the Patt 23 is a profile!! (You do occasionally see versions with fresnel lenses, though). The Patt 123 is the fresnel. Dave (PS traditional definition of antique is >100 years old) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 Is it 25 years when an item can be called an antique. or am I getting this confused with cars???its neither, its over 100 years for an antique normally and over 27 years for a car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleeting Posted July 17, 2003 Author Share Posted July 17, 2003 OK, So it was a Patt 123. It was the shock of seeing it. Fleeting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robloxley Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 Sorry to state this, but the Patt 23 is a profile!! (You do occasionally see versions with fresnel lenses, though).Are they not usually stepped lenses with the steps cut in from the flat side of the lens rather than from the convex side which fresnel lense are? At least the couple I've seen were... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 OK OK I found a couple of CCT minuettes in Camden Antiques market. I can only assume that the guy didn't know what he had - given he sold them to me for £5 (that's for the pair.....) So I'm curious now - how much was the Patt 123 going for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleeting Posted July 18, 2003 Author Share Posted July 18, 2003 Greetings, The Patt 123's are £15.00 each. Although they needed re-wiring. Don't know how many they had. Fleeting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errol Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 Just for information, the PATT 23 could come with different lenes, one of which was a fresnel. Got one here , but is never used. Just imagine the amount of light you could get out of it!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 Just imagine the amount of light you could get out of it!!!!!! Would this give the Patt 45 a run for it's money as the least light for power? Or is there anything else out there more ineficient than the old thing - I would say stageweight but mine aren't even good enough for that - I supose I could fill them up with concrete one of these days - shouldn't affect their light output any but should improve their use as stageweights... Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickLee Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 The thing is, I like Pattern 123s. They give a good, even, light and are bright given their age. I find modern 500w fresnels soulless. The 123 has *character*. Honest. --N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 The 123 has *character*. Particularly when it has been converted to take 650W lamps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 Hi Just reading about using a P23 as a stage weight. Surely one of the most annoying things about them is that they're always falling over????!!!!!!!????? So even if filled with concrete, they'd be useless as any sort of ballast! Grrr to P23s I say, I've just had to PAT 40 of them, GRRRRRRRRRRRR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baldwin Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 Just reading about using a P23 as a stage weightI think it was Patt 45s which were up for being stage weighted, which is all well and good if you've already got a biscuit barrel for the crew room, otherwise, that little hatch on the back is just crying out for them to be up-ended and filled with biccies! Or maybe I'm just hungry right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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