Don Allen Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I want to make labels from my LED fixtures and I am looking to create a safe distance symbol such as on this Martin Rush Martin Rush rear . Does anyone know of an easy free way of making up graphics please to insert into a label. I now know it is needed for some LED fixtures as I evaluated an eprofile HP recently. I stood the fixture up on the lens while manually setting it to full power and within a short time the wooden stage floor varnish started heating up enough to smell hot. The light output is hot on the palm of my hand directly in front of the lens. The fixture does not have a CE marking or a safe distance label which it obviously needs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmeh2 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Hi So just so we're clear - the item is not CE stamped (so presumably not approved either) so you want to add your own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 One of the first sentences in the manual is "The products referred to in this manual conform to the European Community Directives and are there-fore marked with CE." But the fixture itself doesn't have the mark on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleah Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Would something as simple as MS Paint do the job to create a simple graphic? It has basic shape tools. You can then output a jpg to import into your label making software of choice. I see no harm in adding additional labelling to warn of hot surfaces etc, however you definitely should not mark in such a way it suggests it conforms to some standard unless there is proof it has been officially approved to that standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmeh2 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Indeed. I'd be highly wary of chinese kit claiming it has something but doesn't. It is essentially a S4 knock-off, after all. The resellers also have a habit of taking another products manual and reprinting it verbatim without checking its content. If it isn't stamped CE, then it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior8 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 or in the case of some oriental items if it is stamped CE it isn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac.calder Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Are you planning to get these printed on vinyl labels or similar (with holes cut for connectors) or are you just after rectangular labels? Rectangular labels - use word or excel - you could make the basic symbols on the back of that rush fixture just using the shapes available in office. If you are planning to design a full-back label which is vinyl cut - inkscape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 If it isn't stamped CE, then it isn't. To be clear, the CE mark must be applied to the equipment or it's rating plate. If this is not possible, for example because of the nature of the product or its size, then it is permissible for the CE mark to appear on any packaging or on the accompanying documentation. In addition, all electrical equipment must have a rating plate showing things like the working voltage, power consumption etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Allen Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 Unfortunately the EK eprofile HP is an example of the trend for importers to not worry about documentation to prove compliance, assuming it is compliant. The distance label is for my own use. I have some fixtures that did not meet Australian Standards, which is the same as CE standards for those familiar with standards documentation. For those that are not familiar, the Australian Standards refer to the European Standards at the front of the standard, that they are derived from. I have copies of the relevant Australian Standards and have made the equipment compliant with Australian Standards apart from the compliance label. So the next step is to have a suitable label printed. It is not worth having provision for connectors etc, but I would like a durable label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 ...and have made the equipment compliant with Australian Standards apart from the compliance label. So the next step is to have a suitable label printed. That's brave. You have, in effect, taken on the role that the importer is legally responsible for. Affixing a compliance label is only going to reinforce that. I'd be checking what my insurance said as the buck will now stop firmly with you. And I say this as someone who has been dealing with making sure equipment meets international standards since before the CE mark was introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistermorton Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I don't think Don is intending to affix anything implying compliance, merely a warning to himself and others that the lantern needs minimum clearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 How would you know what clearance to put though, if it is not stated by the manufacturer?I know Australia is more relaxed about things like this than we are getting to be here in UK, but I would be wary of affixing home made safety labels to things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Allen Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 The "professional" company supplying this light have put a single line Keep any inflammable material at a safe distance from the fixture in the front of the user manual, which lacks clarification. I will be doing an evaluation by measuring the temperature of the surface of a piece of flammable material in front of the fixture in a controlled environment to ensure combustion does not occur, then document my results and make the safe distance label suit the fixture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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