ingeborgdot Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 I am planning on using 2 TriCaster Minis with AE to stream for basketball coming up. I am planning on having 1 mini in the gym up in the press box where I can hook up at this time, 4 cameras to. I will have a mixer that is hooked up to the play by play and also have a mic to it for crowd noise and pump that into the mini in the press box. I will then have my other mini in my studio which is in a different part of the building and assign the 4 camera inputs to the mini in my studio. It works great as I have already tried it. I am running an xlr cable to the gym to hook between my clear com system in my studio and a hub and interface from Eartec for my camera operators and for my director to talk to them and for other communication. This part is not completed yet but will be done soon. Most of the above scenario has been tried and tested and seems to work just great. Where my big predicament comes in on, is the next item. When we would stream our game we would also send video out of the mini and through an HDMI extender over Cat6 cable into the concession area so people could see the game as it was going on and not miss any of it. The problem is that there is no way for me to get cat 6 directly to the concession area from my studio like I did when the mini was in the press box. It would have to go up to where my mini is in the press box and then into the same Cat 6 cable that we used last year to send the signal out to the concession area. The distance from the press box alone is 220'. It is well over 250' to the press box from my studio. Can I use multiple HDMI to cat 6 extenders. What I'm saying is use an extender out of my studio and run it to the press box. Then take the HDMI and hook to the HDMI of the existing extender and send the signal that way. Has anyone had to do anything like this before? I did try this though. I changed some settings and said that input 6 was Mix 1 of my mini in my studio. I then changed output A to be from input 6. I am not by my mini right now but think that is what I did. It seemed to work but I don't know if that is going to cause me other problems that I am not aware of. I really would like to just use another HDMI extender if that is at all possible. I hope I have not confused anyone and hope I have explained what I have done and what I am wanting to do. Thanks for any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 I think you will find HDMI very unreliable trying to go that far. I would convert to HDSDI, you can run that over cat6 and it will travel much further. Can't you just link the 2 cables rather than converting backwards and forwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 HDSDI won’t run natively over cat5 or cat6: it runs over good quality coaxial cable. You may find good results using HD-BaseT extenders. These can extend HDMI and go up to 100m if you use the extended distance versions over a CAT5e or CAT6 cable. We use Atlona ones with good success but there’s also Kramer; Extron; Crestron... many options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Two tricasters also introduces quite a delay, so if that's an issue (I'm thinking visible output screens in the input stream), you need to be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Sorry I meant to say use converters to run the hdsdi over cat5/6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosxuk Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Is networking the two tricasters and sending the feeds over NDI an option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emissary Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Can I use multiple HDMI to cat 6 extenders. What I'm saying is use an extender out of my studio and run it to the press box. Then take the HDMI and hook to the HDMI of the existing extender and send the signal that way. Has anyone had to do anything like this before? Running them one after the other should be fine, as long you get a good healthy signal to the 2nd transmitter, if you can't get a solid signal to that one then it certainly won't be reliable traveling down the next one. As far as I am aware the only issue could be delay after all the processing of each extender pair. Of course good quality cables is a plus. If money was no problem, then the best option would be a run of fiber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingeborgdot Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 Two tricasters also introduces quite a delay, so if that's an issue (I'm thinking visible output screens in the input stream), you need to be careful.Actually there is no delay at all. I have tried this and the delay if there was any could not be noticed. I had a person on the phone on the other TC and they were actually almost a second later on the phone then what came from the TriCaster to TC. I have figured out that I can just use an input on the TC, let's say input 8 and set that as what comes out of output A on the TC in the press box. It works great. NDI is sure sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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