lonemorf Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Hi all, I need a low to medium budget PA. For discos up to about 200 people max, and for the vocals for a band. I would ideally like subs and tops, with stacking poles, and also for it to be active (makes things easier imo). I have seen many options, Auna, Power Dynamics, some EV stuff (the bottom end I presume), etc etc, then also been looking at 2nd hand kit too . Looking to spend no more than around £1200 really. I was trying to find the shermann audio systems - they used to do the "blue" or "black" systems etc, but they seem to have stopped those from what I can tell from their site. Any ideas/input? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedd Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 For that budget for subs and tops, I'd be looking at Thomann's Achat range. They're not a name brand but they punch well above their weight in terms of sound quality and build. My usual go-to powered boxes are Yamaha DXR12's, but that's not going to leave you a budget for subs. Is second hand an option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonemorf Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 These any good?https://www.proaudiocentre.com/shop/audio-equipment/pa-systems/band-pa/products/alto-ts2-4600w-full-range-band-pa-system-with-live-1604-mixer.html I realise I will want to go and listen to some of these, but some input from you guys will certainly help me narrow it down. Sorry Cedd, I missed your reply. 2nd Hand is certainly an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickiefunk Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 £1200 is possibly a little low for a pair of tops and subs that do audiences for 200 people. It can be done but the venue and positioning of the speakers can make a big difference. At that budget I'd recommend the FBT X-Lite 12a's along with some Alto TS Sub15's. Alto are releasing new versions of those subs this summer which should be worth waiting for.Going secondhand may get more bang for buck and you may be able to pick up some Yamaha DXR10's or DXR12's? Alternatively secondhand FBT J12a's or RCF 312a's or 712a's.I have a pair of DXR15's and on some gigs I use these without my QSC KW181 subs. I am constantly impressed with the power, clarity and depth of bass these put out and have comfortably done events of at least 100+ people with plenty of power left. That may be another option worth considering? The RCF 715's and the Turbosound Sienna TSP152's are also worth checking out.I've used the new Alto TS212a's and whilst they offer excellent value for money I preferred the FBT X-Lite 12a's. To my ears, the FBT's had greater clarity with better midrange, depth of bass and higher output. Those subs are being replaced with a mk2 version which I would hold on for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonemorf Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 Thanks Dickie - where are thebest places to look for these - or is it just "google and hope you dont get a dodgy git"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickiefunk Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Do you mean secondhand? I just noticed that the info for the new Alto subs is on their website now :-https://www.altoproaudio.com/products/ts215shttps://www.altoproaudio.com/products/ts218s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonemorf Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 Any of it really - there are so many unscrupulous sellers out there now, selling knock offs, etc, is there anywhere you would recommend for the new element. 2nd Hand, it appears to pretty much be ebay or gearsource. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickiefunk Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Buying new I've had excellent service from DV247, Absolute Music and DJ Kit in the UK.I haven't bought secondhand PA speakers yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonemorf Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 Thanks again chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Siddons Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Ken Hughes Sherman Audio still in business his website here and facebook page where he lists his deals here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5catfish Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Electrovoice ELX is fairly self explanatory http://www.electrovoice.com/sitefiles/product_images/LiveX_115IN.png Or if you are happy with a DSP unit then ZLX is even less unpopulated http://www.proaudiosystems.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1000x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/e/v/ev-zlx-back-close-up_1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robocow Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Hi all, I need a low to medium budget PA. For discos up to about 200 people max, and for the vocals for a band. I would ideally like subs and tops, with stacking poles, and also for it to be active (makes things easier imo). I have seen many options, Auna, Power Dynamics, some EV stuff (the bottom end I presume), etc etc, then also been looking at 2nd hand kit too . Looking to spend no more than around £1200 really. I was trying to find the shermann audio systems - they used to do the "blue" or "black" systems etc, but they seem to have stopped those from what I can tell from their site. Any ideas/input? I hope Sheermann are still going, we just bought 2 systems from them... We have the K4 (over under 6" double tops & 12" subs) which will do 200 peeps its a great sound, really better then any I heard. the BPM show did a great line up of over 20 brands(?), and Shermann blew them all away. Hence we now own these 2 systems. If you want to up the bass, go for the Orange. (2 x 12" + 2 x 15" subs). Probably a bit more than your budget though. If you're in the south east and want a listen, we would happily oblige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonemorf Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 Thanks - I really appreciate the offer. I will be in touch if I get that far down the route! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergiemac Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Hi all, I need a low to medium budget PA. For discos up to about 200 people max, and for the vocals for a band. I would ideally like subs and tops, with stacking poles, and also for it to be active (makes things easier imo). I have seen many options, Auna, Power Dynamics, some EV stuff (the bottom end I presume), etc etc, then also been looking at 2nd hand kit too . Looking to spend no more than around £1200 really. I was trying to find the shermann audio systems - they used to do the "blue" or "black" systems etc, but they seem to have stopped those from what I can tell from their site. Any ideas/input? I hope Sheermann are still going, we just bought 2 systems from them... We have the K4 (over under 6" double tops & 12" subs) which will do 200 peeps its a great sound, really better then any I heard. the BPM show did a great line up of over 20 brands(?), and Shermann blew them all away. Hence we now own these 2 systems. If you want to up the bass, go for the Orange. (2 x 12" + 2 x 15" subs). Probably a bit more than your budget though. If you're in the south east and want a listen, we would happily oblige. Shermann are still going strong, they're tied up with this company now; http://www.sonovie.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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