Neil_m_123 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Hi all, Just wondering if anyone had put mics under a litedeck stage for tap and if it worked Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Yes - and no it didn't. You get loads of heel thumps, but the taps are rather quiet - the HF doesn't make it through the deck, just the thumps. Boundaries on the top work much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerry davies Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Check out the way Rory McLeod and the great flamenco dancers do it with ply flooring and built in mics. As Paul writes, under decking all you get is stampeding Wildebeest noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Check out the way Rory McLeod and the great flamenco dancers do it with ply flooring and built in mics. As Paul writes, under decking all you get is stampeding Wildebeest noise.Stampeding wildebeest, that made me laugh out loud! It immediately brought to mind an amateur production of 42nd street I once had the misfortune to do sound for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart91 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I had a roughly-related task a while ago, putting mics underneath a wrestling ring to get added impact from their moves. Similar to mics under rostra, you get lots of thump but not much definition. And lots of squeaking springs, which needed some pretty brutal EQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyro_gearloose Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 If its for a long running tour, you could do what one or two shows have done and record the taps onto the backing track. The you just have to hope the dancers stay in time :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil_m_123 Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share Posted July 22, 2013 That's what I thought, okay back to plan a then :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Wiles Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I was sound number 1 and 2 on Hot Shoe Shuffle back in the 90's.We had an onstage band, and 9 radios (only 9 in the cast). All the tap was live and we used 4 AKG 451/CK1 with the 'angly' bits on mounted in a foam mouse across the front of the stage and 2 Neumann KMR mics (1 each side). The amount of tap we got was very good.....we had to convince some members of the audience that it wasn't all recorded (the band were hidden for Act 1 and some of Act 2) Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbsy Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I've done both the boundary mic technique and the C451 with swivel head and both worked really well (except you can't buy that model of 451 anymore). At the most extreme, I was once asked to run MKE2 lavs down both trouser legs and radio mic the whole thing--best sound ever but I'm not sure it was enough better than boundaries to make it worth the expense and palaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_Isbister Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Hi thereDid a show last year which featured Joaquin Cortes and his sound engineer / production manager persuaded the promoters to build these custom 8x4 decks which were laid ontop of the steeldeck stage.https://www.dropbox....0final%2002.pdfhttps://www.dropbox....cefloor%201.jpgThe final dance floor was 48ft x 48ft and we mic'd it using 16x pcc160' fed into a mackie submixer.Once the lids were screwed done the his monitor engineer eq's the mic's by walking around tapping the floor with a broom handle.The results were very effective indeed if you have the time/wood/cash but if you are going to tour the show and the taps have to be live then this would be my prefered option.If have more construction drawings if anyone is really interested Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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