paulears Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Doesn't that wreck the pump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Johnstone Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 How would it? Its a compressor!Its what's reccomended when purging a DF50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csg Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 yes, no pump, no heater block in this type of machine, just an oil tank, compressor and a number of very fine spray nozzles that produce the haze particles. Running them dry does no harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djlorenz Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I've other stuff in order from highlite so this time I'll go with the showtec mineral oil fluid...about df50 I'll have a look around but I think it's not easy available from big re-sellers... does Look unique and stage factory machines work with compressor? I seen their fluids on thomann... thank you guys for your infos!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Off topic but I am intrigued how this machine can work with both glycol fluid (assuming that's what the "water based fluid" is) and oil.I have seen a water based cracker machine before (the Jem Hydrosonic) but I thought the actual vapourisation part was quite different to an oil cracker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistermorton Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 That's what confused me, Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csg Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 does Look unique and stage factory machines work with compressor? I seen their fluids on thomann... thank you guys for your infos!!! No, these are conventional glycol / glycerine machines that use piston pumps and heated vaporising blocks. Their fluid will not work and is expensive. Stick with the show tech oil haze fluid, nothing else! Off topic but I am intrigued how this machine can work with both glycol fluid (assuming that's what the "water based fluid" is) and oil.I have seen a water based cracker machine before (the Jem Hydrosonic) but I thought the actual vapourisation part was quite different to an oil cracker. In short, they can't. Antari may say that you can use special water based haze fluid, but in my experience an oil cracker needs oil to function properly. The haze quality with water based fluid is no better than a cheap water based fazer which I dot see the point off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Johnstone Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I too wondered how water based fluid worked in crackers. I know you can get water based fluid for DF50's. DBN were trialling it at warehouse project from what one of their PM's told me.I've not seen it so couldn't say how they compare though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigclive Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Glycol can be atomised by other means that heat. I've never actually tried the cracking technique which basically involves blowing streams of bubbles that shatter into tiny droplets when they reach the surface of the liquid, but I have tried ultrasonic atomisation of glycol and it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djlorenz Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Off topic but I am intrigued how this machine can work with both glycol fluid (assuming that's what the "water based fluid" is) and oil.I have seen a water based cracker machine before (the Jem Hydrosonic) but I thought the actual vapourisation part was quite different to an oil cracker. don't know what exactly it's but I don't think the "water based" fluid is with glycol.... antari sells their hazer fluid in both version.... perhaps is less mineral oil and more water? Stick with the show tech oil haze fluid, nothing else! already ordered ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 don't know what exactly it's but I don't think the "water based" fluid is with glycol.... antari sells their hazer fluid in both version.... perhaps is less mineral oil and more water? You really can't mix mineral oil with water. I think it is glycol based, but with a much higher concentration of glycol than you'd find in normal smoke fluid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djlorenz Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 just for confirm.... Martin Pro Haze Fluid is NOT OK for that machine,Showtec haze fluid is OK, I'll test it outdoor next friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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