gleek96 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Hello, I am lighting a show this summer in which we require a blackout. The only problem is, the performances are in the day and the curtains we have in our school hall really aren't very good so allow the stage to be illuminated too much. We need the stage to be absolutly pitch black and we cannot afford the audience to see on stage in these blackouts. I do not know what you could suggest. My best idea has been a whiteout but in practice it hasn't worked as well as I have planned. After hanging the lanterns, I will only have:6 x Parcan 64 (Floorcan)2 x Footlights (Not entirly sure what they are but this is a question from my schools stage manager about the same lanterns http://www.blue-room.org.uk/index.php?showtopic=47986&hl=skimble&st=0 )I am stuck at a dead end so am open for any suggestions. I have used all of our budget already so there is a problem there however I can possibly get £100 from my school if I try. Thanks,Gleek96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRW Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Hello, I am lighting a show this summer in which we require a blackout. The only problem is, the performances are in the day and the curtains we have in our school hall really aren't very good so allow the stage to be illuminated too much. We need the stage to be absolutly pitch black and we cannot afford the audience to see on stage in these blackouts. I do not know what you could suggest. My best idea has been a whiteout but in practice it hasn't worked as well as I have planned. After hanging the lanterns, I will only have:6 x Parcan 64 (Floorcan)2 x Footlights (Not entirly sure what they are but this is a question from my schools stage manager about the same lanterns http://www.blue-room...hl=skimble&st=0 )I am stuck at a dead end so am open for any suggestions. I have used all of our budget already so there is a problem there however I can possibly get £100 from my school if I try. Thanks,Gleek96 How big are your hall windows? Black sugar-paper and blue-tack/tape generally seems to be the blackout material of choice for some schools that I've seen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peza2010 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 nip up to the art department and get Big sheets of black sugar paper to stick to everywhere that lets light in?I dont think there is a "technical" answer to this, just make the room as dark as you can, with whatever you can get hold of. EDIT.... post above was written as I was writing this, and got the same idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior8 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Faced with a similar situation every summer for several years I found sugar paper and tape was the only solution. It takes hours though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I once painted the glass with black emulsion. My tests showed is scraped off easily with a stanley blade. My test, however, failed to take into account the time to do the entire thing. Weeks! I'd go for the sugar paper idea too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceejm1 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Tin foil and a spray mister as used to water plants. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Comes off v quick too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gleek96 Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 Thank you, I was considering the same however the windows are around 6m tall. However, I am hoping to get away with just covering the smaller ones which are about 1m x 2m. I think that this is where the lights mainly comes in from at the times we will be performing. Thank you all! - this is to the idea of sugar paper if that was unclear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willdoweuk Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 If its a quick blackout, peoples eyes usually take a little time to adjust to the new light level. So maybe you will be ok. But if not I would give a +1 to the tin foil and water sprayer idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peza2010 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Tin foil and a spray mister as used to water plants. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Comes off v quick too... where does the spray mister come into this? is that to cause it to stick?if not could you expand? (sorry to hijack the forum but im interested in this idea?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerry davies Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 We used to use large (enormous) cardboard sheets painted black but fortunately had the Tri-wall factory around the corner. You may have to rethink the need for complete blackout anyway. It is rare these days to get a total blackout anywhere what with exit lights and step lighting in most venues. I have just put sticky backed hook velcro on my van windows to hold blind material. Maybe that could be a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceejm1 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Tin foil and a spray mister as used to water plants. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Comes off v quick too... where does the spray mister come into this? is that to cause it to stick?if not could you expand? (sorry to hijack the forum but im interested in this idea?) Lightly spray the glass, not too wet, and then smooth the foil onto the window. It will adhere remarkably well and peal off easily when finished with no paint or sticky residues left over.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Depending on the purpose and the speed / length of the blackout, you may want to research Black Art It's a branch of Stage Magic, for which Omar Pasha is probably the best known performer (youtube / google). The principals are appropriate (potentially) to your needs though. Cheers Smiffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gleek96 Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 Basically, it is a performance of 'The Woman In Black' so at various points, the woman needs to quickly get onto the stage and appear as if she is a ghost. I am starting to think that maybe we could rely on the audiences eyes not being able to adjust fast enough to see properly. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 so Gauzes, two way mirrors, and cunning set design not an option then? Nothing gives a 'surprise' ghost entrance away quite like a Blackout prior to every entrance. Cheers Smiffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gleek96 Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 I like the idea of a gauze, in fact I like it so much that I am already using one. However not for these purposes. I think that with a black gauze, the woman dressed in black and the audiences eyes needing time to adjust, we might be OK. I will try some of these other methods if mine doesn't work! You have all been a great help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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