RoyS Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Hi all, I have a limited budget to hire some movers for a forthcoming school production of Forbidden Planet. Am considering Mac500’s or Robe Colourspot 250AT’s. Existing LX include Selecon 650W fresnels, profiles, 300W PAR56’s & some LED PAR’s. Will run the show from Daslight, MagicQ or another PC solution. Does anyone have opinions re the above choice of mover. By the way the going rate is £50/week per lump.. Cheers Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LXbydesign Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Robe Robe Robe!!! Using the old Mac500's now is like driving an old mini compared to a new Fiesta!! The beam outpur on the Robe is far superior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Hill07 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Another vote for the Robe 250ATs, very good optics and bright compared to the old mac 500s'. It's hard to find good condition, fully working mac 500s these days and in my experience of using 500s they seem to have a good few problems with the older ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinE Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Yep I agree with the Robe as well. A popular nightclub had MAC500's and after a couple of years traded them in for the Robe 250XT's, the difference was quite remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.sealey Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Robe Robe Robe!!! Using the old Mac500's now is like driving an old mini compared to a new Fiesta!! The beam outpur on the Robe is far superior Stepping away from LX for a second, I'd rather drive an old Mini any day over a new Fiesta... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livewire4989 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hi all, I have a limited budget to hire some movers for a forthcoming school production of Forbidden Planet. Am considering Mac500’s or Robe Colourspot 250AT’s. Existing LX include Selecon 650W fresnels, profiles, 300W PAR56’s & some LED PAR’s. Will run the show from Daslight, MagicQ or another PC solution. Does anyone have opinions re the above choice of mover. By the way the going rate is £50/week per lump.. Cheers Roy According to each manufacturers published figures, the Robe 250 Spot AT has a total light output of between 2940 lumen and 3440 lumen depending on the lens fitted. The Mac 500 however has a total light output of 9000 lumen with standard lens fitted. (Incidently the Mac 250 Krypton has a total lumen output specified at 5000 lumen.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDLX Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Personally I would go for Mac250 Entours over the Robe's, but either will be far brighter and quicker than a Mac 500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djandydee Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 According to each manufacturers published figures, the Robe 250 Spot AT has a total light output of between 2940 lumen and 3440 lumen depending on the lens fitted. The Mac 500 however has a total light output of 9000 lumen with standard lens fitted. (Incidently the Mac 250 Krypton has a total lumen output specified at 5000 lumen.) It must be colour temperature or something because on a side by side shoot out the 250 is brighter than the old 575, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Need Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Yes agree - the entours are faster - and a little brighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livewire4989 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 According to each manufacturers published figures, the Robe 250 Spot AT has a total light output of between 2940 lumen and 3440 lumen depending on the lens fitted. The Mac 500 however has a total light output of 9000 lumen with standard lens fitted. (Incidently the Mac 250 Krypton has a total lumen output specified at 5000 lumen.) It must be colour temperature or something because on a side by side shoot out the 250 is brighter than the old 575, A good clean Mac 500, with a good young lamp, is brighter than a Mac 250. Its amazing the difference these two factors (cleanliness and lamp age) make to the performance of a moving light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Congo Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Its not always about the light output, you might want to think about which has gobos that suit what you are doing better Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LXbydesign Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Well that last remark is irrelevent as you can swop out the gobos on either model to suit anyway. The MAC500 (young, clean or old) is still slower than the Robe though and taking into account the time that the 500 has been around, with newer, faster and better optics- other smaller fixtures like the Entours for example, win hands down for me in terms of performance and ease of use (transporting, lifting etc etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jay Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Not really a probelm, the gobos can easily be swapped out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgecaliber Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Robe. End of. P.s - Moving lights in a school!? hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jay Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 now thats why arguments start on here with remarks like that, we know the opinons on here, a bit to much in my opinion, get over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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