J Pearce Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 I know, I was referring to the separation of PC type unit and control surface, rather than it all being packaged into one box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommulliner Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 Im thinking that I may put forward to the school about the jester ML24. our current desk, alcora 12/24 has the same amount of channels and that seems to suit us, but the jester will be able to manage the movers. plus its only £1,650 (roughly). Oh and going off topic for a moment, what is a DMX Universe? havn't quite got that yet :sThanks,Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jay Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 A DMX universe is how many DMX channels a single desk output will control. so for instant; I have 1 universe DMX channels 1-60 I used up by your 2 moving lights, you have 452 channels left to use, so each dimmer will take up 1 DMX channel. Each universe can control upto 512 DMX channels. Does this make sense? the more universes you have the more fixtures you can use. Thinking about it, if you dont know fundimentals like this, you should not be getting new equipment just yet. I dont think you should be specing any desk without knowing what each feature does, I.e how many universes it has, weather it takes ethernet connections (relevent or not) ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommulliner Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 Yes, that does make sense now, thanks johnathan.Have any of you used the Jester ML24, is it nice to use, user friendly?Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bleasdale Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Yes, that does make sense now, thanks johnathan.Have any of you used the Jester ML24, is it nice to use, user friendly?Thanks. I have one in our school. Easy to use and can handle movers. I got ours for about £1200 - bargain! It can handle movers with easy and gives you the the right sort of feature set. Are you going to Plasa? Best, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommulliner Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 I've seen one for £1099 at stage electrics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jay Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 I've just had another look at that Tom, that price aint going to be there for long, it on special offer for a short period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommulliner Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 I no, shame. What is plasa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jay Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 PLASA Great place to meet people and have a hands on look at equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommulliner Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 It would be a bit hard for me to get down to london. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn O'Donoghue Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Don't feel under pressure to buy a "special deal", take your time, look at each product and choose the most appropriate solution. I work at AC Lighting and we would be happy to arrange a range of different small consoles for your to evaluate at our showroom at High Wycombe, including the Jester ML and the Vista PC. As mentioned by a previous poster AC have great pricing all of the time, so I am sure we can help you get the right solution for your application at the best price around. E-mail me at glynod@ac-et to arrange a demo. Glyn O'DonoghueAC LightingDDI 01494 838305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Wouldn't recommend a PC/dongle/wing-based solution for school use - too many elements to the system, too many layers of complexity and possible points of failure. Stick with the one-box solution. Aside from that, this is a topic that's been covered on the BR over and over and over and over and over and over and ... well, you get the picture. Give the search function a good thrashing, you'll see what I mean. Speak to your local supplier. In Shrewsbury, that may well be Stage Electrics in Birmingham. Or maybe AC Lighting in Leeds - bit further, but very helpful chaps. Not sure who else would be close by. Tell them what you need to be able to do, and how much you can afford to spend. See what they can offer. Get them to lend you a couple of desks of different makes for a few days, and try them out. See if they do what you need them to do - and if they do it in a simple enough way for a wide cross-section of pupils with a broad range of lighting ability to be able to pick up basic operation skills fairly quickly. Then, and only then, start to think about making a decision. Certainly, don't think about making a decision based solely on the advice of inexperienced people posting suggestions on a public forum while only having the most basic grasp of your situation and needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bleasdale Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Just come to think of it... But you didnt understand a DMX universe... so do your dimmers take DMX?? Best, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jay Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Certainly, don't think about making a decision based solely on the advice of inexperienced people posting suggestions on a public forum while only having the most basic grasp of your situation and needs. As to who are you refering, or are you just generalising to people who are under a certain age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommulliner Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 so do your dimmers take DMX?? not yet, its all part of doing up our hall, currently we have a demux 48 with 4 analouge dimmers. we are getting new dimmers, new lights and a new desk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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