gareth Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 I was led to belive that the X/Y position was actually refering to the movement of the head from a control point of view - and not the physical moving of the entire unit!!Nope. The movement of the head is pan and tilt - altering just one of those moves the light beam in at least two, usually three, of the X/Y/Z axes. Notably, the Wholehog 2 did pioneer the plotting of moving lights using XYZ positioning rather than pan/tilt values, but it didn't seem to catch on as much as it might've done. back to plottingOh, but are you sure you mean plotting? Because the dictionary definition of plotting is "to create a graphical representation of something" - and you're not drawing a picture of a lighting state, are you? What you're doing, to be strictly accurate, is recording a lighting state, so surely the sessions during which the lighting designer creates lighting states which are then stored by the board op should be called recording sessions, not plotting sessions. See? Pointless arguments about the semantics of words which have been used perfectly adequately for many years to describe a particular component in the process of creating a piece of theatre are pretty much a waste of everyone's time. Now, haven't you got any coursework to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidLee Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Oh, but are you sure you mean plotting? Because the dictionary definition of plotting is "to create a graphical representation of something" - and you're not drawing a picture of a lighting state, are you? What you're doing, to be strictly accurate, is recording a lighting state, so surely the sessions during which the lighting designer creates lighting states which are then stored by the board op should be called recording sessions, not plotting sessions. Rubbish! Plot also means Plan or Contrive. (Or to make a secret plan - which may be more relevant ) An operator may only be recording but the LD is most definitely plotting. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Ross Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Sorry I cant resist any longer, Why do lampies get hacked off when you call a lamp a bulb? As in “The bulb has gone in that PAR” p.s. I always call them lamps but I just wanted to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammie300 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Just for my 2p(15%VAT Excl.), Focus the profiles and fresnels, Point the PARs, but I do rotate the lamps to get the oval across the stage. Pan and Tilt the moving heads James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Jules Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Why do lampies get hacked off when you call a lamp a bulb? As in "The bulb has gone in that PAR" Because a bulb is something you plant in the ground! A 'light bulb' on the other hand almost always specifically refers to an incandescent lamp, whereas 'lamp' refers to the replaceable component that produces light - be it incandescent, halogen, fluorescent, LED, discharge, carbon-arc or whatever. Semantics I know, and we all use one for the other now and again. Also, while we're at it, a PAR is a lamp a Parcan is the unit containing it Now, what about calling a lantern a 'light'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LXbydesign Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Now, haven't you got any coursework to do? :P Er, excuse me Mr, but your only 2 years older than me thankyou - and as LD I was "plotting" my own states into the desk. I would kindly request you check ones profile before you make a comment like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heinz57 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Interesting discussion. I would say focusing. However you are right, with a PAR it is just pointing, because you cant alter the beam etc. I suppose the only reason I call it focusing is because its how I was introduced... Just my thoughts :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkPAman Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Interesting discussion. Where? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Ross Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Interesting discussion. Where? :P You just cant see it because the lights are not pointed, I mean plotted, I mean focused :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Interesting discussion. Where? :POver there. {Points to another thread. ANY other thread ...} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 This really has gone far enough. There is no more to be said on the subject as far as I can see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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