timtheenchanteruk Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 OK, a bit of a long one here. In the summer I was helping our some "friends" in setting up a performance space the idea was that for a smaller than usual fee I was going to help out in speccing and sourcing equipment, they would then do the buying and I would help out setting it up. however due to an error on their part their sound equipment never got paid for, hence never delivered and as far as I am aware was never re-ordered. SO to get them out of a pickle on their opening night I hired them some equipment, on my standard terms, NOT as a favor in this case. however I have never received the equipment back, and no answer to phone messages/emails or letters nor have I received any payment for the hire term, which was only supposed to be an interim until their equipment arrived. I have today sent a registered post letter stating that unless I receive my equipment back, and payment in the next 5 working days I will take further action, but Im unsure as to what action to take. The amount of money involved is not inconsiderable by my means, that have got a carlsbro eclipse 12 mixer/amp 2xSM58s and a portable CD player along with associated cables, these they have now had since the 1st september. any help gratefully received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Siddons Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Have you been round to the performance space or your "friends" house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtheenchanteruk Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 not as yet, I have been incredibly busy, so not had the chance to, although next week I will be doing so if Ive not had a reply. my main problem is when they are open (during the day) I am at my full time job and up to this point been busy in the evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Siddons Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I would suggest that a day off work to get the equipment back and it sorted would be in order. If this fails then its small claims court etc providing you know who to issue the summons to and that they have the money to pay you ... good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scjb Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Plus raise an invoice for the whole period of time they have had the kit...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac.calder Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 If you are going 'round - after you have sent a letter by registered post, then call the local police and ask if they are willing to escort you. It serves two purposes, one, it applies a little bit of muscle, and two, it makes sure things stay nice and civilised. Even if the police are not willing, make sure you take a witness with you - as it is a verbal demand, and having a witness who can coroborate your story to small claims is always nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtheenchanteruk Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 thanks, Ill ask about the police escort and see what they say. I wont hold my breath on them paying an invoice for the full period, but might just do so and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Very much a matter of balancing "Incredibly busy" with the "loss of hire fee and equipment" That is kit you are going to lose and fees you are going to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBoomal Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 No good deed shall go unpunished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LXbydesign Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 If you are going 'round - after you have sent a letter by registered post, then call the local police and ask if they are willing to escort you. It serves two purposes, one, it applies a little bit of muscle, and two, it makes sure things stay nice and civilised. Even if the police are not willing, make sure you take a witness with you - as it is a verbal demand, and having a witness who can coroborate your story to small claims is always nice. adding to this> try and take a dictaphone (spelling) along as well. having a recorded copy of the conversation is further back-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 or take a video crew with you - you see how much people hate getting their face on camera when they are doing dodgy deeds. However, police wise - obtaining goods by deception seems a good starting point for a complaint. Intending to permanently deprive someone of their goods is still theft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidso Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Have had this on before. If you call the police, as long as you can prove ownership of the goods. i.e. are they marked with you company logo etc. they should be more than helpful. When it happened to me it was a restaurant that had closed down with some of my gear still in it. The police had no problem "opening" the door and escorting me inside to retrieve my gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtheenchanteruk Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 indeed it is all marked, sticked up with hard (but not impossible) to get off stickers, and with UV security markings. a couple more days and Ill let you all know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Siddons Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 So how has it all turned out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtheenchanteruk Posted November 14, 2008 Author Share Posted November 14, 2008 good news, I have got all my kit back, and thankfully all still in the condition it went out in, they are also going to look at my full invoice and come back with an offer for an agreement, they said they will get back to me in the next 7 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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